JUST A VET: WHAT MANY, MANY VETS HAVE TO SAY -
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ATTN: ANDY STEPHENS (GW BUSH Office)
CBS: PLEASE FORWARD TO Mr. Bellisario, USMC (&"MAGNUM" ,"HARM",
& JAG TV
cast. "HARM": Did I see you chat with WJC at the White House? WANT MY
CASE?
09/15/00: POW/MIA Recognition Day
FACTS - not EMOTION
Should VETS contact BUSH & ALGORE on how VETS are (mis)treated?
Mail@GeorgeWBush.com click TAX CALCULATOR to see YOUR IRS savings at
www.GeorgeWBush.com
Vice.President@WhiteHouse.gov
GW Bush intends to improve IRS (NO IRS tax under $35,000/yr) & Social
Security- can VETS be NEXT?
I will GLADLY email a fine Dallas Morning News series of articles
re US military abuses.
I welcome aboard at least 2 former US sub skippers, Roger
Staubach-USNA, and MANY "new folks." I met some FINE USN sub officers-
I almost met a USN RAPIST. (Other than that, how was the play, Mrs
Lincoln?) Interesting to see JAG TV 9/8/00 suggest the US knew of Pearl
Harbor BEFORE 12/7/41. I will GLADLY email a DETAILED article on GEN
MARSHALL's (I have read FDR wanted MARSHALL to run D Day) UNusual
activities 12/6 & 12/7/41 & another article suggesting KIMMEL & SHORT
are innocent. My friend Rev Les Kinsolving
LES@WCBM.com (who ALSO
avoided a MILITARY SEX ATTACK) (Les was born at West Point & served
TWICE) has long noted that weekEND Pearl Harbor patrols were STOPPED
just BEFORE 12/7/41, and that arrows pointing to targets were MOWED in
fields. Even Churchhill knew. The US had broken the code. The History
CH says that a CIVILIAN liner tracked the fleet by radio across the
Pacific FOR DAYS. The USN sank a Japanese sub off Pearl Harbor MORE
THAN AN HOUR BEFORE THE PLANES ATTACKED. WHY NO US SURPRISE COUNTER
ATTACK? I thank PARADE MAGAZINE for their USS INDIANAPOLIS article
which points out how sharks dined on the USN for DAYS (NO floating shark
nets)?
"God and the soldier we adore,
In times of danger, not before,
The danger past and all things righted,
God is forgotten, and the soldier slighted."
DD Eisenhower by Morin
12/11/98, Baltimore Sun:
"The last senior officer to face a court-martial was RADM Seldon Hooper,
who was charged in 1957 with conduct UNbecoming an officer, SODOMY and
INdecent acts. He was convicted and sentenced to dismissal and
forfeture of pay."
I believe THIS VET paid/pays a HEAVIER price. ALGORE- do YOU "have
the courage" to do the HONORABLE thing for this VET? I believe in FULL
& ACCURATE disclosure:
l. RUSH looped 15 times Rodney King TWICE attacking the police
2. Stating that SAT scores canNOT be directly compared to older SAT
scores-I told JHU I would LOWER their SAT average & I kept my word
3. Examine the treatment this VET got before and AFTER disclosing (DEC
92) the JAN 70 RAPE of another USN enlistedMAN. I declined OCS from
CAPT W DEDERICK, CSS 16 (in charge of Med subs) when he wrote a letter
of rec to U PA MBA
Ollie: thanks for court-martiallng an officer who sexually attacked
an enlisted & for the GW ad about HUNDREDS from THIS admin fleeing the
US/taking the 5th. Looks like we have an admin that canNOT control
itself DOMINATING others.
I thank the reader for getting this far. Attached are several LINKS
provded by another VET who cares about the US military.
www.firebase.net/member_sites.htm
www.militarybenefits.org
www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/3853
www.212.net/rebel/campaign.htm
I hear QUICK REVIEW $50 stops attachment problems.
IF one is interested in the miltary and how VETS ARE (MIS)TREATED,
one could spend HOURS reading therein, as I DID. Seems many VETS were
promised ONE THING (eg, health care), but ended up with LESS. This VET
was promised an HONORABLE USN Discharge in Spain, then COWARDLY mailed a
GENERAL (the same as USAF B-52 pilot FLINN got for lying, sex, etc & a
USAF priest got for sex with another service member (Denver Post).
Aren't GENERAL Discharges MEANT to PUNISH? In 7l I tried on my own to
"correct" this, but in 74 Milton Eisenhower (twice JHU Pres) got the USN
to write "ERROR OR INJUSTICE." Days later my Social Security job (101
on US jobtest) was "taken," saying I "flunked." US Judge Lamberth in
DC
has SSA info saying I voluntarily quit SSA (my sister had excelled in
the same SSA job for YEARS, therefore NO WAVES). BUT IF that were true,
how could I have also sent Judge Lamberth MD UNemployment info???? I
was good enough for U VA MBA (top 10), but NOT for a US clerk's
job??????? MAY 95 I did my own Chap 7.
Sen/Sigma Nu Brother Lott (I SERVED): Done ANYTHING for VETS
lately? Did YOU get a PHONEY I-A after YOUR freshman year? (I was a
Sigma Nu JHU Charter Member & Chaplain). CSS 16 COS CDR A B ANDERSON
(Sigma Nu) wrote a DECENT letter when I HAD to leave that USS HOLLAND
sleeping/showering RAPE area. The HOLLAND XO ordered me to read a far
more DAMNING note HE wrote. I served DAYS under HOLLAND: MONTHS UNDER
CSS 16. I was practically ordered by CSS 16 to join a bull fight party
"to relax." I usually read any UNclassified info I could find, or wrote
friends. In disclosure, I played 36 Sat & 36 Sun, 18 on Wed, shooting
in the low 80s with IRONS that are STILL older than me. I believe I saw
the USN rapist once in the gym.
Dr Dean- why do LIBS speak of VIOLENT acts against HYDE, HESTON,
STARR. etc? A difference in blood chemistry? I did my best to AVOID
violent USN RAPE. Has the reader heard a man raped? ASK ME.
IF I KNEW ABOUT THAT JAN 70 RAPE- DID THE CO? I RECALL ONLY THE
VICTIM LEAVING. What would have happened IF I had mentioned that RAPE
while on active duty? Send SASE for some "UNusual military suicides."
We need only look to the Oval Office to see the lengths folks go to
coverup (sexual) activities, such as CIC sex while on the phone with Rep
Callihan while discussing military matters.
www.JUDICIALWATCH.org
spells out how a list of some 50 deadfolks around this admin was placed
on Tripp's US chair & that of White House email worker(s). Also JAIL
THREATS. Also the GREAT China expansion, I believe ADM Moorer thinks
we will fight China south of the Rio Grande. Rep Castle- is it true that
you (& others) WEPT after seeing the Ford Bldg Juanita evidence (that NO
DEMS saw)? I hear this SEALED info will come out by OTHER means. I
read Schippers TWICE voted for WJC- I previously wrote that after FIRST
SEEING WJC speak, I KNEW there was a "problem." I phoned Schippers'
office to express my support- can't wait to read SELLOUT. THE
DYSFUNCTIONAL PRESIDENT by Dr Paul Fick, Reason Mag- CAN THE PRESIDENT
THINK, Insight Mag comparison of WJC & FBI sex preditor profile. I am
usually right about folks. AFTER the USN, I was EASILY #1 of 400+ JHU
volunteer grads raising JHU $ by phone. A JHU (Pres) would NOT hire me.
Black & Decker MAR 70 (in the USN) helped me visit their Barcelona plant
(at MY expense) (a B&D Pres friend knew an aunt). NOW B&D will NOT even
send an application for ANY JOB.
ALGORE- didn't HRC HEALTH threaten to JAIL (some) folks (& MDs)?
Given 5/14/74 USN: "ERROR OR INJUSTICE"- why do YOU ignore this VET?
One form letter 5 years ago seems WEAK. Is THIS the GREAT SOCIETY?
ALGORE- didn't YOU vote & break the TIE that gave US the largest TAX
INCREASE in US history? 5% pay over 50% of IRS taxes.
ALGORE- could YOU fly a jet fighter? ALGORE-it only took ONE note
to VP AGNEW (who had lived 2 streets over- I do NOT recall meeting him)
to exit that USN sleep/showering RAPE area. AUG 70 CAPT DEDERICK having
NOT made ADM- (was I blamed?) left for DC & I could see that rape area
ahead AGAIN. SEP 70 in MD on leave I handed Rep Long (D) USN: "GET
DRUNK & FXXK SOME WHORE" which I had asked be repeated. Getting back to
HOLLAND, I got a look that could KILL from its USN author. ALGORE-
AGNEW HELPED.
I am honored that a US Joint Chief RET reads my info (I can't wait
to read THE FOG OF WAR) and US Judge Lamberth in DC filed some 200 p I
sent.
Since DEC 92, this USN 1970 E-3 has contacted some 1,000 folks,
asking ANYone who thinks I have NOT been punished/destroyed to write.
Still waiting. JAN 70, USS HOLLAND, 1,100 man subtender, Rota, Spain I
heard (and was told to stay away from) the RAPE of another USN
enlistedMAN, who then cried before me saying I might be NEXT. IF I
KNEW, DID THE CO? I RECALL ONLY THE VICTIM LEAVING. This Eagle Scout
30 years ago learned what other Scouts (who were BOOed at the DEM
convention) now know-hopefully the US is learning. My JHU Psych BS is
dusty (BA Econ, MAS), but even I can see a major problem with those who
canNOT control themselves dominating others. Paula could go home at
night. "Uncle" Bob- any luck yet with WJC?
This was in addition to a HOLLAND chap who tried to swim the
Atlantic, a ship stores theft, another chap who KILLED a Spanish cop,
and TWICE I was headed to a deckcrew that "lost" 2 enlisted legs in 60
days due to TIED lines at ship departure. Do USN candybars still MOVE?
Working briefly in the bakery, MORE than raisons were in the bread. My
Great Lakes DI (who had recently gotten his GED at 30-something) asked
if I had "any education": in 74 Milton Eisenhower (twice JHU Pres)
strongly "suggested" I complete my 3rd JHU degree.
London Times 7/11/00: Willie HITLER joined the USN in 44. I invite
the reader to see if a HITLER relative was treated BETTER than THIS VET.
p 392 FALL FROM GLORY: THE MEN WHO SANK THE USN tells how the TX 82
USN Sailor of the Year (we've spoken) was placed in a psych hospital
AFTER disclosing alleged Dallas NAS payroll abuses. p 392 & p 26 also
tell how USN medical records ARE CHANGED (eg, a senior officer on
aircraft carrier).
Rep/USN shrink 68-70 McDermott: (any new Newt tapes?) (Rep DUNN-
could you check to see McDermott gets my email?) (I dated a shrink's
daugher AFTER the USN- HE dropped HIS fork on the floor) p 392 FALL FROM
GLORY: THE MEN WHO SANK THE USN says that Sen Boxer is against military
medical records being used to punish. MY recent USNR medical records
did NOT contain POSITIVE USN comments (which I sent to Rev Schuller LAST
YEAR for the White House) or mention of CHESTPAINS AFTER that RAPE which
I thought were KILLING me one night. Dad dropped dead at 58, his
brother at 52, another male Borig at NASA died young. Still waiting.
Having seen my life pass before my eyes (AFTER the USN), politics seems
so CHILDISH. (A Korean pilot who crashed told me of seeing HIS life
pass by).
5 years ago ALGORE sent a form letter. GW Bush's FEB 00 note
addressed the matter I outlined. A non-blood WWII USNA relative was
stunned to hear PART of my 30 YEAR (& COUNTING) ordeal. ADM RICKOVER's
WHY NOT THE BEST is good enough for me.
ALGORE- do you think folks should operate in a calm, logical
method? Is YOUR son still driving at 100 mph? Is this the same son
caught in school with an "interesting substance", and who ran into
Baltimore traffic and nearly died? p 45 UNLIMITED ACCESS says YOU do
NOT take calls AFTER 9 PM. Comments? I hope Tipper has recovered from
the depression we read about. ALGORE- how can YOU be so self-centered
as to IGNORE this VET? Only 5 months in NAM (with BODYGUARDS)? ALGORE-
did YOU really shun The American Legion- GW was there?
ALGORE- do YOU think MAJ GEN EVANS who sponsored this Eagle Scout
would hire the GENERAL Discharge I had 3.5 years? Just before I HAD to
join the USNR DEC 68, I dated a Colt cheerleader whose Dad worked at his
stockbrokerage. CATTLE FUTURES are beyond me, but notwithstanding ONLY
getting OVER $5/hr by waxing up to 7 cars/day BY HAND (sometimes for JHU
classmates), had I shorted goldstocks DAYS later, I would be independent
now. ALGORE- any controlling MORAL authority? Here in LIBERALLAND
Mikulski (who jokes about being the little general with earings) &
Sarbanes (wasn't his relative a GEN?) IGNORE this VET, yet do NOT mind
flag-burning or LIVING baby brain removal. "Rep" Cardin RUNS from this
VET- his son hung himself. RUSH says LIBERALISM is a GUTLESS choice.
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES has a great segment on USS WILLARD KEITH DD that
probably sank a US sub off San Fran in 45- divers recently saw a sub on
the bottom there. The USN says there is NO record of firing depth
charges- enlisted strongly say otherwise. I chipped KEITH's lead paint
in Norfolk before USNR active duty.
Can we trust the US yet? Even the US House on Assassinations
dropped the Warren Commission findings. (I recommend KILL ZONE, $15
book 785 266 1112 by an ex-sniper-the cover diagrams MANY shooters).
The History CH THE M E N WHO KILLED KENNEDY (5 hrs) 800 708 1776 points
out that the chap who prepared "Oswald" in 63 said in 81 that the head
autopsy cuts were GONE. In Search Of names the photo of a USSR "Oswald"
double. Why were Dallas MDs NOT allowed to see JFK autopsy photos?
Oswald's HONORABLE USMC Discharge was LATER strongly DOWNgraded. Like
the denial of grassy knoll shooters' photos, the US ignored HUNDREDS of
TWA800 witnesses- www.TWA800.com
It is time to face reality, not be taken in by a convention KISS?
Can the US survive another LIB with a southern twang? The History CH
says JFK brought home ONE planeload from NAM, then 11/22/63. McDermott-
any comment on LBJ urinating on Secret Service folks? What did CARTER
do to the military (20% prime rate)? What has WJC done to/for the
military? ALGORE- why do YOU IGNORE THIS VET? It only took ONE note to
Milton Eisenhower to get USN: "ERROR OR INJUSTICE." I realize YOU are
NO EISENHOWER, but why do YOU "spit" on this VET? Only 5 months in NAM
(with BODYGUARDS)?
PARTNERS IN POWER says NOV 80 WJC allowed a Titan II bomb (700 X
Hiroshima) to lay UNattended in a Little Rock field after an explosion.
I submit the US military approaches an IMplosion based on SEX, etc.
Ollie, HACK, Bob Dornan- didn't some 20 US GENs threaten to QUIT at the
same time?
USN JAG: How are we doing with that list of MILITARY SEX ATTACKS,
and the list of USS HOLLAND 1970 "problems" that I requested 8/17/00?
What would have happened IF I had mentioned that JAN 70 rape while on
active duty? DEC 92 in a 5 page note to Rep Dornan was the time I
mentioned that rape of another enlistedMAN. Bill Kurtis of A&E TV has a
DETAILED list of MILITARY SEX ATTACKS that moves TOO QUICKLY onscreen.
Perhaps the reader would contact Mr. Kurtis, A&E TV Networks, 235 E 45th
St, NY NY 10017, 212 210 1400. I believe I can "top" those IRS victims
on another INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS. RUSH says more MEN are RAPED/year (in
prison).
For an organization that Dr Dean says ADMITS to a 40% BOOZE
problem, and p 29 FALL FROM GLORY: THE MEN WHO SANK THE USN (which OPENS
describing IMproper, public SEX behavior of a SECNAV) says OVER HALF THE
USN has pot/coke problems, is not the US(N) attacking TOO MUCH this
religious, straight, male, EAGLE SCOUT (Pro Deo Et Patria Award) VET?
Larry Nichols 501 329 5122 must be doing a great job- he was recently
BEATEN for the 9th time in Arkansas.
ALGORE- I read that Ms. Prudhomme who asked YOU on TV about
Juanita's WJC (double?) rape claims was "only" asked to supply IRS with
data. THIS VET was given 10 days to send $850. It only took ONE call
to Rep Bentley & I "made" $250, AFTER HAVING TO SEND $850. Thus, why
are VETS treated tougher? REASON, not REACTION. ALGORE- do YOU still
call the US military FACIST? Does WJC still LOATHE the US military?
Does WJC still think he was TOO SMART to serve? Seems to me Milton
Eisenhower did the TOUGH part in 74: Check please.
Jim Nicholson, RNC- any update on the 478 nationally elected DEMS
since 92 that are now GOP? RUSH says 1 LIB in a room will try to bring
DOWN 99 others to HIS level of MISERY. Churchhill said capitalism is
the UNequal distribution of wealth & socialism is the equal distribution
of MISERY.
GW: doesn't at least 80% of the US object to Partial Birth Murder?
At JHU I learned
l. The only STUPID question is the one you do NOT ask
2. You don't know what you don't know.
Thus, given that even a FEmale Duke microbiology grad friend did NOT
know about Partial Birth Murder, is THIS a GW ad topic?
Bill Gates: would YOU be speaking JAPANESE or GERMAN but for VETS?
Studied the Battle of Midway? It took YEARS & MANY LIVES for the USN to
get DECENT torpedos. Thanks again for helping JHU- done anything for
VETS lately?
ALGORE- RUSH (who promptly years ago mentioned the (DEM?) chap who
changed his tire in "my" 60 mph MIDDLE lane 35 years ago) says there is
$17 Billion Medicaid FRAUD/YR. Comments? Any progress with up to a
MILLION "missing" White House emails per www.JUDICIALWATCH.org? I hear a
PRIVATE firm can find them 25 times faster than the US govt. Anything
new new given www.ruddynews.com & that .45 hole in Ron Brown's head-
found by a USN enlisted represented by JUDICIAL WATCH? 4 US MDs agreed
it was a wound.
$17 Billion/YR MEDICIAD FRAUD? Sen Breaux should recall $19 mil NO
US APPEAL awarded to a former Green Beret after being denied purchase of
US land. CAREER? FAMILY? PENSION? HEALTH INSURANCE? (A HS friend in
my 74 SSA training class racks up US benefits). TAILHOOK (any RAPES,
legs "lost"?) was worth $7 mil. $4.5 mil, net seems reasonable given 30
years & COUNTING. Are US military officers still serving White House
tables? Check please.
Rev Schuller- got time to phone HRC- even I know who is in charge.
I would like to think I know what the US military response would be
IF we were openly, directly attacked. But, I believe I see what HAS
happened since 92. Weren't WWII & Korea "surprise" attacks? I gladly
defer to Norm Polmar, etc.
"Christianity is a battle, NOT a dream"
Wendell Phillips
Again, I invite the reader to examine the attached links re VET
(mis)treatment.
JUST A VET...
Kenneth A. Borig
1860 Loch Shiel
Baltimore MD 21234
410 661 0040
To: "KEN BORIG"
Subject: Re: JUST A VET
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:11:33 -0500
And here is a link that has lots of links
firebase.net/member_sites.htm
I hope this helps some. The way the sites are multiplying, it is very hard
to keep tract of them all.
Roger Frederick
Tricare Now the World Knows!
militarybenefits.org
Fight Against Military Injustice Web Ring
www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/3853
100,000 Webpage Campaign
www.212.net/rebel/campaign.htm
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----- Original Message -----
From: "KEN BORIG"
-AVBORIG@webtv.net
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: JUST A VET
Do you have any links to other military INJUSTICE websites?
5/l4/74 the USN wrote "ERROR OR INJUSTICE", then I "lost" my US job.
Kenneth A. Borig
1860 Loch S
