Was nick berg decapitated alive?

Posted: 24 May, 2004 09:13    Post subject: Was nick berg decapitated alive? I'm not so sure now...  

First off, i mean no offence to anyone by posting this...it is something i now ponder, and want to share... If you are offended by it, and can't understand how i am cold hearted towards the issue? Then please read it!!! Also, i feel deep regret for the Nick Bergs death, and its disgusting no matter how it happened.

With that said, i will begin:

Ok, you have you websites, that post info on shit, example, "Did we really land on the moon?" websites.

I was very sceptical when viewing some of these sites, however, im not soo sure anymore.

One thing for sure is that Nick Berg was killed, however who by im not sure...after a few hourse of reading up, and i think i may watch the video for myself. I think he may off been killed by Islamic Terrorists, however, i strongly believe his beheading, was in fact not on their part. Here is why: (LONG READ)

http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Here's some questions that have been raised and some possible answers or alternatives to what we are told. It leaves you with a lot of confussion and questions and as recent history has shown, that doesn’t usually relate well to the ‘Official Story’.

Questions and anomalies:

1. OFFICAL STORY: First we hear of the Iraq photo abuses and see some on the news, then shortly in the days after there’s a video made public by Islamic militants beheading Nick Berg as retaliation for the photos.

FACT: The US initially denying the Prisoner abuses and then, admitted it was the act of a few ‘rouge soldiers’ and now more and more evidence is to suggest that the authority to treat prisoners without regard to POW rules comes from the top, signed by Rumsfeld himself. The video of Berg’s death was, with everything else put aside, released and made by the ‘terrorists’ with perfect timing for the US government. That video told us that making a human pyramid of naked Iraqi’s is child’s play compared to beheading someone on video. It also gives Bush reason to withheld the worst of the reported thousand odd photos and videos, with him claming national security, i.e. What happened to Berg as retaliation from these ‘soft’ photos could be nothing compared to acts of Terrorists with the real damning Iraq abuse photos the Government has – hence an excuse not to release all of them and to select which ones to release.

2. OFFICIAL STORY: The man with the knife was reported as being Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi – a known terrorist who is very high on the most wanted list.

FACT: the US have already said that they believed Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was killed in early bombing raids on Iraq, lets first assume they got that wrong and he is alive.
Why then title the video ‘Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi shows killing of an American’ (as the Arabic letters at the start of the video read), talk loudly on tape identifying yourself as Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi BUT cover your face to hide your identity?

Now lets assume he is dead, what proof is there it’s not him? why use him as the suspect?

a) Fundamentalist Muslim, the most strict and religious Muslim, as most Terrorist claim or are claimed to be, have very strict rules. One being, gold and pure silk is forbidden to men in Islam, thou not women. ie. Men cannot wear gold rings – the man with the knife is wearing a gold ring on his finger. This in itself isn’t too damning as evidence, many people in religions pick and choose which rules to follow and many Muslim men wear gold. However, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi is a strict fundamentalist – He would not be wearing gold as his religion forbids it. http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/the_lawful_and_prohibition_in_islam/ch2s2p2-1.htm
We see the wedding ring on the left hand, the sinister hand, the hand that Islam reserves for toilet functions.

b) Zaraqawi was missing one leg and had been outfitted with an artificial leg that did not fit or function properly. He was unable to walk or stand normally with his ill-fitting limb. Although that doesn’t rule out Iraqi militants, it does suggest that it is NOT Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi in the video as claimed by the US.

c) Arab linguists have said the man posing as the Jordanian Zaraqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect. Others have suggested the man reading the written statement may not have been a native speaker of Arabic.

d) the man calls Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) 'Gracious Prophet', while it is only Allah, Whom Muslims call 'Gracious'. A mistake a Fundamentalist Muslim would not make.

e) All Islamic organizations, including the ones accused of terrorism, have condemned this act. Nothing has been heard about Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi for the past few months, and there has been a rumour going around and several reports that he died in a bombing. This makes Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi a good person to pin the blame on as if he is dead, as the US has stated before. He will not be coming forward to deny or admit to this crime if he no longer is alive. From MSNBC: “Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq ‘during the American bombing there,’ according to a statement circulated in Fallujah this week and signed by the “Leadership of the Allahu Akbar Mujahedeen.” – Full Story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/

3. The masked men, what do they tell us?

a) Firstly, the way they are standing in this video and their mannerisms and posture are not familiar with Iraqi’s and Muslims alike. One man is rocking on his toes, another is looking around not paying much attention and all stand legs apart in a ‘square’ type fashion. These are not characteristics of Iraqi or Arab men but suggest postures of westerners and military.

b) They are fat by Iraqi standards, especially for militants. If they were Feyadeen or mujahadeen, they probably have been living underground since the first days of the occupation. Some men have what can only be described as pasty-white hands and are light skin in other areas showing. You would be hard pressed to find Arab men with pasty-white hands.

c) The weapons that the murderers were holding in their hands resemble AKs, but the experts claim that this is a modified AK-47. These are actually Israeli-made weapons that improve on the famous AK- 47. Feyadeen and other insurgents almost universally use standard AK-47s.

4. What does Nick Berg tell us?

a) He is sitting in a white chair as featured in many of the Iraq prisoner abuse photos which are US military issue in Iraq. He is sitting in front of a yellow brick wall as Abu Ghraib Prison features.

b) Nick Berg reportedly worked at Abu Ghraib Prison for some time, first reported on MSNBC and then removed: "During his time in Iraq, he struggled with the Arabic language and worked at night on a tower in Abu Ghraib, a site of repeated attacks on U.S. convoys and the location of the notorious prison where U.S. soldiers abused Iraqi inmates."
New version: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/cached version: http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:8JxYBX3TCfoJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/%2Btower%2Bberg%2Bmsnbc&hl=en
c) He seems very calm for someone about to be killed, either he knows what’s about to happen and believes he’s safe or he has no idea. A scream heard as his head is being removed has been identified as a female voice, amateurishly added to the video and out of sync.

d) Where’s the blood? When cutting off the head of a living person, blood will spurt up to 10 feet from the neck and gush as the heart still pumps. Also blood would drain from the head as it’s lifted. The video shows no blood squirting as the head is removed, there’s no blood on the walls, there’s no blood on any of the masked men or on the hands of the person with the knife. This proves that Nick Berg was already dead when his head was removed. Neither does Nick Berg move or struggle while on the ground having his neck and head cut with a large knife, suggesting he is already dead.

5. What’s the video tell us?

a)
The video has been edited and filmed with what looks like two cameras. Time codes from the video change dramatically and the timeline of events shown in the video are not their original order. This suggest there has been editing done and that can easily be proven by the timeline, change of angles and out of sync audio.

b) The audio on the tape jumps out of sync without consistency which suggests audio edits have taken place. http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=1471708&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&part=1

c) For five frames in the video (which played in real time is less than an 5th of a second) there is an ear and part of a green cap that comes into shot on the left. The ear clearly belongs to a white male and the green cap is very similar to US army standard.
http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

d) There are unofficial reports by workers at Kodak film labs in the US that the video has been examined and the digital watermark recorded on all digital video as a ‘fingerprint’ for authenticity, has been linked to video of the Abu Ghraib Prison. These digital watermarks are different on every camera and video and are as unique as a fingerprint. If these claims can be proven true then it’s safe to say that at least one camera used to film Nick Berg was the same camera used to film Iraqi abuse, this would be the smoking gun.
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=&action=m&board=37138445&tid=apprisonerabusephotos&sid=37138445&mid=12296&thr=12296&cur=12296&dir=d

e) An English voice is heard in the final seconds possibly saying ‘Thy will be done’..
Download an MP3 of this voice: http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/thywillbedone.mp3

f)
The video was edited digitally and uploaded to the internet first from London. Video from Terrorists and militants almost always are delivered un-edited as a hardcopy or original to the press, not digitally edited and uploaded to the internet which suggests these militants have access to equipment not readily available to most people in war torn Iraq, especially not to wanted militants.
The Video Was Uploaded From London, Not Iraq
After several hours of research, JackBlood.com has learned the web addresses for the ‘Islamic Websites’ that posted the Nick Berg decapitation video. The website addresses are www.al-asnar.net and www.al-asnar.biz . Both websites have apparently been disabled by 'authorities.' The location of the web server is reportedly in Malaysia. However, the addresses of the publishers for these sites are located in London, England and Nurnberg, Denmark.
The addresses began to disappear from the internet listings as we reported this development on The Power Hour Radio Show. Apparently, ‘Big Brother’ had been listening to the show and didn’t like the news at all.
The location of the publishers for al-ansar.net appears to be at an Arab Press Building, which appears to be shared by different Arab news publications. The name of the organization is the Arab Press House. The building is apparently the headquarters for news magazines such as, Al Jamilla, Sayidaty, and Al Majallah among others.

There’s a lot more info out there and people trying to piece it all together.
Was Nick Berg already dead?
Was he killed first during the missing hours as to the videos timecode and then had his head removed?
Who is the white male that appears for only 5 frames near an edit point?
Why is Nick Berg’s speech filmed at two different angles by the same camera with obvious movement taking place by Nick Berg during the change of angle? Was there more than one take?
Where is the videos fingerprint results which workers at the Kodak lab have talked about them matching US videos? Is this the same camera as used by US soldiers at Abu Ghraib Prison?
Why was Nick Berg’s body flown into the secretive US base where dead soldiers are bought home when he was a civilian contractor and not part of the US Military?
Why was his remains quickly buried and put to rest when forensic clues could answer a lot of questions about the masked men?
Who are the masked men in the videos and who are the supposed men the US army have captured?

Read:
C.I.A. cut Nick Berg's head off?
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/article.php?id=2785
Video Timeline
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=1471708&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&part=1
Berg decapitation video was filmed inside the Abu Ghraib prison
http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Further opinions and ideas suggested at:
http://marc.perkel.com/

I think the most important raised facts are those of the camera's fingerprint.. and the inconsistancy and errors made by what are supposed to be MUSLIM EXTREMIST or Fundamentalist Muslims. Also another interesting thing, is that he was never given an autopsy? Why, this would reveal alot on his killers, would it not?

Anyway, something to think about i guess.....

Cheers, Mike

BEHEADING OF NICK BERG
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/POW_beheaded.htm

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