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Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section1

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Subject: Fw: Coxnews | Campaign 2000 | News
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:51:50 -0500
From: "linwood kelly" beetovheen@msn.com
To:  apfn@apfn.org

Bush and Cheney are from the same state.
The presidential electoral votes from Texas are unconstitutional
they cannot vote for them except one vote
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment12/


----- Original Message -----
From: linwood kelly mailto:beetovheen@msn.com
To: politex mailto:politex@bushwatch.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: Coxnews | Campaign 2000 | News

Read this George Bush received 32 electoral votes for candidacy. Dick
Cheney received  32 electoral votes from Texas. The president and vice
president cannot receive the same votes of electors if from the same
state. Cheney got them and Bush got them. Did you notice after the
election Cheney changed his address to Wyomy. The electors if given all
the votes to Cheney could not of vote for the president. If  all votes
went to Bush they could not voted for Cheney. They would have had to
abstain.  Thus Bush would become the president as republican and the
vice president would have been the democratic vice president who run
with Gore  because he would got more votes or filibuster would have
occurred.It doesn't matter. Cheney was resident of Texas when he was
elected.
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:F-kTeGKvbpYC:www.coxnews.com/2000/news/cox/122000_electors.html+Electoral+votes%2BTexas+electoral+votes+for+president+and+vice+president&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


In U.S., electors' big day comes off with few hitches
By Ken Herman and Gary Susswein/ Cox News Service

12-20-2000

In a year when one vote mattered, and on the day it mattered most,
one was missing for a nervous moment when longtime GOP activist
Ernie Angelo, chairman of the Texas electors, tallied them aloud.

''George W. Bush,''
Angelo said as he read the paper ballots one by one.

He sent the Senate chamber into prolonged applause when he pulled
the 31st ballot out of the black plastic box and signaled the end
of the tally by saying, ''And George W. Bush.''

The problem is, Texas has 32 electoral votes. And Bush, going into
Monday's nationwide vote by the Electoral College, had only one more
vote than the 270 needed for victory. Again, it seemed, Bush backers
had celebrated a bit too soon.

''We got nervous when we only had 31 (votes) for president,'' Angelo
said after adjournment. ''One of the electors had put their vote in
an envelope, so I opened that up quickly to find the 32nd vote
. . . . It would have made a lot of difference, but it was there.''

Within hours of the Texas vote, which also provided 32 electoral
votes for Vice President-elect Dick Cheney, the 2000 presidential
election officially went for the GOP ticket when Nevada electors
gave Bush their four votes and gave him the 271 electoral votes
needed for victory.

Hawaii cast the last votes, giving Vice President
Al Gore a total of 266.

Elsewhere, Gore's home state of Tennessee cast its 11 electoral
votes for Bush, as expected. And Florida -- after five turbulent
weeks of recounts and legal challenges -- kept its promise and
cast its all-important 25 votes for the Republican.

''It was like, finally, we did it,'' said Mel Martinez, an elector
in Florida, where members hugged and high-fived after the vote.
''It's like a close ballgame, and the clock ticks and your
team wins.''

The Nevada vote closed the door on the remote possibility that a
few ''faithless electors'' who had pledged to vote for Bush might
upset his victory by casting their ballots instead for Gore.
Across the nation, GOP electors resisted overtures by Democrats
who wanted them to defect, a tactic rejected by Democratic nominee
Al Gore.

Gore lost an electoral vote in the District of Columbia when
Barbara Lett-Simmons, 73, turned in a blank ballot as a protest
against the district's lack of representation in Congress.

With the Electoral College voting done for another four years --
and maybe forever if reformers manage to kill it off -- all that
remains is for Congress to make the votes official Jan. 6.

At the Texas Capitol, the voting offered a different kind of feel
for a different kind of year. Bush supporters and others packed
the gallery above the Senate to watch the proceedings.

Republican activists Charles and Sandra Bush of San Antonio,
distant cousins of the president-elect, donned their matching
Texas-flag shirts for the occasion. They'd been planning since
June to be here.

''We didn't have any idea it would be this close,'' Charles Bush
said. ''I'll be a lot more satisfied when the votes are counted
in the Senate on January 6.''

On the Senate floor, elector James Randall of Austin said he had
been flooded by letters, e-mails and phone calls urging him to
vote for Gore, something he said was out of the question.

''I was just so proud to do it,'' Randall said after voting for
Bush. ''Governor Bush has been an excellent leader for the state
of Texas. He's going to make a tremendous president.''

Elector Betty Hines of Texarkana said Democrats were wasting
their time in trying to shake her vote from Bush.

''Not in any lifetime would I ever change my vote,'' she said,
adding that the Electoral College session was an emotional
experience. ''My heart was palpitating. Tears were running down
my face, and it was such an honor.''

Elector Ken Clark of Galveston, in nominating Angelo for chairman,
told colleagues, ''It's amazing the difference one vote makes,
especially in this year.''

Texas Secretary of State Elton Bomer, a Bush appointee and close
friend, opened the 55-minute session by noting that Bush will be
the first Texas governor to move to the White House.

''He will follow in the footsteps of many other legendary Texans
who have helped lead America to greater heights, including the
late Lyndon Baines Johnson and a man who will now be referred to,
I suppose, as the first President Bush, George Herbert Walker
Bush,'' Bomer said.
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Bush and Cheney are from the same state.
The presidental electoral votes from Texas are unconstitutional
they cannot vote for them exceptone vote

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment12/

U.S. Constitution: Twelfth Amendment

Twelfth Amendment - Election of President

Amendment Text | Annotations

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by
ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least,
shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;
they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as
President and in distinct ballots the person voted for as
Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of
voted for as President, and of all persons voted for
and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall
sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the
government of the United States, directed to the President
of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the
presence of the Senate and House of Representatives,
the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--
The person having the greatest number of votes for
be the President, if such number be a majority of the
of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority,
then from the persons having the highest numbers not
exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President,
the House of Representatives shall choose immediately,
the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the
representation from each state having one vote; a
this purpose shall consist of a member or members
of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be
necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives
shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice
shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March
next following, then the Vice-President shall act as
President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional
disability of the President.--The person having the
of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President,
if such number be a majority of the whole number of
and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest
numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President;
a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the
whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole
be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally
ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible
to that of Vice-President of the United States.


Annotations

Election of President

This Amendment, 1 which supersedes clause 3 of Sec. 1 of
Article II, was adopted so as to make impossible the
situation occurring after the election of 1800 in which
Jefferson and Burr received tie votes in the electoral
college, thus throwing the selection of a President into
the House of Representatives, despite the fact that the
electors had intended Jefferson to be President and Burr
to be Vice- President. 2 The difference between the procedure
which it defines and that which was laid down originally
the provision it makes for a separate designation by
of their choices for President and Vice-President,
respectively. As a consequence of the disputed election
of 1870, Congress has enacted a statute providing that if
the vote of a State is not certified by the governor under
seal, it shall not be counted unless both Houses of Congress
concur. 3

Footnotes

[Footnote 1] A number of provisions of the Amendment have been
superseded by the Twentieth Amendment.

[Footnote 2] Cunningham, Election of 1800, in 1 History of
American Presidential Elections 101 (A. Schlesinger ed., 1971).

[Footnote 3] 3 U.S.C. Sec. 15.

Electoral Votes
http://www.fec.gov/pages/elecvote.htm

ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Electoral College, the constitutional system for the ELECTION of
the PRESIDENT and VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. It is
name for a group of electors, nominated by political parties
within the states and popularly elected, who meet to vote
two offices.
http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/side/elecollg.html

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DISCOURSE ON VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/3199/tl06.htm

 

The Evil Dick Cheney

There is a wide trail of lies told by Cheney. There is the Iraqi connection, the Enron ties, the India deal, the so on and so on. Cheney also lied about not living in Texas as late as November 2000 in apparent violation of the 12th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. He didn't sell his Dallas-area mansion to a major Republican donor until Nov. 30, 2000, according to deed records. I have been by that $2.7 million home several times since Cheney sold it and have never seen any evidence anyone occupying it. The owner, Dianne T. Cash, owns another million-dollar home in Highland Park, one of the wealthiest suburbs in the country. So, she needs two mansions in the same tiny suburb, huh? From Sept. 2000 until June 2001, Cash - an appropriate name for a Republican, right? - gave a whopping $229,433 to national Republican organizations, in addition to buying Cheney's house, according to federal records. Interestingly, she also gave $1,000 to Democrat Bill Bradley in 1999 - her only contribution to a Democrat since then. Was that a ploy to foil Gore? Surely, this staunch Republican did not embrace Bradley's proposals, which were more liberal than Gore's.

Another lie concerns another basic piece of public information with a paper trail: Cheney's Texas driver's license. Dick's license is still active but lists his address as 500 N. Akard Street in Dallas, which is where he worked at Halliburton, not his home on Euclid Avenue in Highland Park. Lynne Cheney's driver's license lists the same Akard address. Texas law requires residency addresses to be placed on licenses. Even someone as paranoid as billionaire H. Ross Perot - remember his weird reason for getting out of the 1992 presidential election because the Bush campaign supposedly planned to disrupt his daughter's wedding? - has his home address, not work address, on his Texas driver's license. Even Bush listed the Texas governor's mansion - which was where he lived and goofed off, er, worked - on his license. Other high profile politicians - such as former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, who is running as a Democrat for U.S. Senate, and his Republican challenger, Attorney General John Cornyn - list their home addresses, not work. Why were both Cheneys allowed to be above the law, once again?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/dcheney.htm
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linwood kelly beetovheen@msn.com
Federal Register | U. S. Electoral College
Wed Jan 1 02:21:00 2003
208.152.73.112


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Subject: NARA | Federal Register | U. S. Electoral College
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:36:39 -0500
From: "linwood kelly" beetovheen@msn.com

This is from the NRA of the electoral votes cast was 32 for Bush and 32
for Cheney. The amendment 12th of USA states they have to astain or give
one or the other the vote. The elector decides which one to give it to
if the candidates are an inhabitant the same state. If they gave it to
Lieberman Bush would lost the presidency.So they would had abstainaking
Lieberman with 269 votes and Cheney with 244 votes. We should have a
democratic vicepresident and Republican President. Also the vice
president'svote does not count in the electoral colleg. Let's see if he
voted.
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/members_2000.html#tx

TEXAS -- 32 electoral votes cast for George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney
3,799,639 popular votes cast for George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney
Population, 1990 census, 16,986,510
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linwood kelly beetovheen@msn.com
Cheney's Residency Challenged
Wed Jan 1 02:43:04 2003
208.152.73.112

Cheney's Residency Challenged
http://www.evote.com/index.asp?Page=/news_section/2000-11/11212000Cheney.asp


DALLAS, Nov 21, 2000 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Three Texas voters have sued to block Gov. George W. Bush's election as president by challenging running mate Dick Cheney's status as a Wyoming resident. The lawsuit was filed hours after a similar lawsuit was dismissed in Florida.

The suit filed Monday claims Cheney is a resident of Texas and that he and Bush, therefore, shouldn't be awarded the state's 32 electoral votes. The lawsuit cites the 12th Amendment, which prohibits the president and vice president from living in the same state.

"Someone cannot be a resident of two states simultaneously," said Bill Berenson, the Fort Worth attorney representing three Dallas County residents who are suing Bush and Cheney. "If Mr. Cheney wanted to run for political office in Wyoming he would be prohibited from doing so. Some of Wyoming's statutes state that."

Cheney lived in Texas until he changed his voting registration to Teton County, Wyo., on July 21. He or his wife have owned a home there since 1993.

Last week, Cheney put his Highland Park home on the market for $3.1 million, Berenson said.

A call to the Bush-Cheney campaign was not immediately returned.

A lawsuit filed in last week in Florida that made similar claims about Cheney was dismissed on Monday. Berenson said the Dallas County lawsuit was filed because the merit of the basic claim must be sought by residents in the county where Cheney resides.

The suit claims that Cheney holds a Texas driver's license listing his Highland Park address and that, on Feb. 22, he changed his personal records at the Texas Department of Public Safety and again listed the Dallas address.

It also claims Cheney's vehicles are registered in Texas, that he paid taxes on them in Dallas County, that he has filed federal income tax returns listing himself as a Texas resident and that he has lived in the Highland Park home for the last five years.

The case has been assigned to Judge Sidney Fitzwater, a Republican appointed by former President Reagan. No date for a hearing has been set.

By BETSY BLANEY Associated Press Writer
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Google Search: Texas address 2000 Dick Cheney
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:55:41 -0500
From: "linwood kelly" beetovheen@msn.com
To: "politex" politex@bushwatch.com


Address of Cheney on Texas Driver license.The only way Cheney cpild got
vice president was the electors would had give him 26 votes leaving only
six to give to Bush. Cheney would had 270 votes, but Bush Would only
had 250 votes.The elctors cannot give there votes to same inhabitants
from the same state. I want to sue them.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Texas+address+2000+Dick+Cheney&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_qdr=all

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http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=661
HARRINGTON: CHENEY LIVES IN DALLAS! Jim Harrington, the state’s sternest publicity hound, recently called a press conference in front of Austin’s Federal Courthouse, to announce that he and Philadelphia lawyer Philip J. Berg were filing a class-action lawsuit against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. As it happened, Harrington and a cluster of reporters ended up not exactly in front of the courthouse, but off to one side, in the middle of the sidewalk. So it was as if Harrington, who wore a grey pinstripe suit and a multicolored tie for the occasion, had simply been set upon by a band of roving reporters while out on an afternoon stroll.

The lawsuit, filed two days after Kathryn Harris awarded Florida’s electoral votes to Bush, charges that Cheney is in fact an inhabitant of Dallas, and that therefore Texas electors cannot cast their votes both for him and for Bush without violating the Twelfth Amendment ("The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice President, one of whom, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves….")

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linwood kelly  beetovheen@msn.com
READ THIS ABOUT ELECTORAL VOTES
Wed Jan 1 01:29:34 2003
208.152.73.112

----- Original Message -----
From: linwood kelly

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: Coxnews | Campaign 2000 | News

Read this George Bush received 32 electoral votes for candidacy. Dick
Cheney received 32 electoral votes fromTexas. The president and vice
president cannot receive the same votes of electors if from the same
state.Cheney got them and Bush got them. Did you notice after the
elction Cheney changed his address to Wyomy. The electors if given all
the votes to Cheney could not of vote for the president. If all votes
went toBush they could not voted for Cheney. They would have had to
abstain. Thus Bush would becomethe presidentas republican and
thevicepresident wouldhave been the democratic vice president who run
with Gore because he would got more votes or filibuster would have
occurred.It doesn't matter. Cheney was resident of Texas when he was
elected.
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:F-kTeGKvbpYC:www.coxnews.com/2000/news/cox/122000_electors.html+Electoral+votes%2BTexas+electoral+votes+for+president+and+vice+president&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Cox news story

In U.S., electors' big day comes off with few hitches

By Ken Herman and Gary Susswein/ Cox News Service

12-20-2000

In a year when one vote mattered, and on the day it mattered most, one was missing for a nervous moment when longtime GOP activist Ernie Angelo, chairman of the Texas electors, tallied them aloud.

''George W. Bush,'' Angelo said as he read the paper ballots one by one.

He sent the Senate chamber into prolonged applause when he pulled the 31st ballot out of the black plastic box and signaled the end of the tally by saying, ''And George W. Bush.''

The problem is, Texas has 32 electoral votes. And Bush, going into Monday's nationwide vote by the Electoral College, had only one more vote than the 270 needed for victory. Again, it seemed, Bush backers had celebrated a bit too soon.

''We got nervous when we only had 31 (votes) for president,'' Angelo said after adjournment. ''One of the electors had put their vote in an envelope, so I opened that up quickly to find the 32nd vote. . . . It would have made a lot of difference, but it was there.''

Within hours of the Texas vote, which also provided 32 electoral votes for Vice President-elect Dick Cheney, the 2000 presidential election officially went for the GOP ticket when Nevada electors gave Bush their four votes and gave him the 271 electoral votes needed for victory.

Hawaii cast the last votes, giving Vice President Al Gore a total of 266.

Elsewhere, Gore's home state of Tennessee cast its 11 electoral votes for Bush, as expected. And Florida -- after five turbulent weeks of recounts and legal challenges -- kept its promise and cast its all-important 25 votes for the Republican.

''It was like, finally, we did it,'' said Mel Martinez, an elector in Florida, where members hugged and high-fived after the vote. ''It's like a close ballgame, and the clock ticks and your team wins.''

The Nevada vote closed the door on the remote possibility that a few ''faithless electors'' who had pledged to vote for Bush might upset his victory by casting their ballots instead for Gore. Across the nation, GOP electors resisted overtures by Democrats who wanted them to defect, a tactic rejected by Democratic nominee Al Gore.

Gore lost an electoral vote in the District of Columbia when Barbara Lett-Simmons, 73, turned in a blank ballot as a protest against the district's lack of representation in Congress.

With the Electoral College voting done for another four years -- and maybe forever if reformers manage to kill it off -- all that remains is for Congress to make the votes official Jan. 6.

At the Texas Capitol, the voting offered a different kind of feel for a different kind of year. Bush supporters and others packed the gallery above the Senate to watch the proceedings.

Republican activists Charles and Sandra Bush of San Antonio, distant cousins of the president-elect, donned their matching Texas-flag shirts for the occasion. They'd been planning since June to be here.

''We didn't have any idea it would be this close,'' Charles Bush said. ''I'll be a lot more satisfied when the votes are counted in the Senate on January 6.''

On the Senate floor, elector James Randall of Austin said he had been flooded by letters, e-mails and phone calls urging him to vote for Gore, something he said was out of the question.

''I was just so proud to do it,'' Randall said after voting for Bush. ''Governor Bush has been an excellent leader for the state of Texas. He's going to make a tremendous president.''

Elector Betty Hines of Texarkana said Democrats were wasting their time in trying to shake her vote from Bush.

''Not in any lifetime would I ever change my vote,'' she said, adding that the Electoral College session was an emotional experience. ''My heart was palpitating. Tears were running down my face, and it was such an honor.''

Elector Ken Clark of Galveston, in nominating Angelo for chairman, told colleagues, ''It's amazing the difference one vote makes, especially in this year.''

Texas Secretary of State Elton Bomer, a Bush appointee and close friend, opened the 55-minute session by noting that Bush will be the first Texas governor to move to the White House.

''He will follow in the footsteps of many other legendary Texans who have helped lead America to greater heights, including the late Lyndon Baines Johnson and a man who will now be referred to, I suppose, as the first President Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush,'' Bomer said.

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