R H firstname.lastname@example.org
Wed Mar 20 23:45:59 2002
I append my collection. My bet is that there are more yet to come to light.
I've also checked out the backgrounds to some of the witnesses. Some are more likely to be credible than others.
The Cleveland case is engaging because he spoke to the media but hs extra information was ignored. Other witnesses may have experienced the same.
The presence of the C130 was at first officially denied. When they were forced to admit it, they then continued to try to cover up how close it was. The object in the background of the available first of the security video is perhaps the C130.
Please mind that some witnesses reported that the fireball exploded a good few seconds after the initial impact of the B757 (time enough for somebody who was knocked over to have stood up again).
N.B. also that the top speed of a C130 is a good deal less than a B757.
Allen Cleveland watched from a metro train:
"Soon after the crash(Within 30 seconds of the crash) I witnessed a military cargo plane (Possibly a C130) fly over the crash site and circle the mushroom cloud. My brother inlaw also witnessed the same plane following the jet while he was on the HOV lanes in Springfield. He said that he saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary RD in Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right behind it. I think this was also a reason for the false threat of another plane about to crash which caused rescuers to have to evacuate for a short time after the initial crash."
Off to the west, Sucherman saw another plane climb steeply and make a sharp turn. "I thought, 'Is this thing coming around to make a second attack? If there is another explosion, we're toast.'"
Anon, from the Naval Annes. We constantly scanned skyward with our "eyeball radar," noting the sound of every jet engine seemed to make us jump. Fortunately, the only aircraft noise was the crisp distinctive ripping sound was of Air Force F-16's or the roar and popping of the rotor blades of a Park Police UH-1 helicopter surveying the damage. The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was a gray C-130, which appeared to be a Navy electronic warfare aircraft, he seemed to survey the area and depart in on a westerly heading.
John OKeefe, 25-year-old Northern Virginia commuter, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying was "not much more than a football field away" on
The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head, and it scared ...me, because I knew there had been two planes that hit the World Trade Center. And I started jogging up the ramp to get as far away as possible
Then the plane -- it looked like a C-130 cargo plane -- started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.
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