WACO TRIAL 07/14/2000
Word About This Kangaroo Court From List Owner
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Subject: word about this kangaroo court from list owner
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:06:14 EDT
I sat in that courtroom and watched Judge Smith practically pass out from boredom on more than one occasion that I noted in my record keeping.I realized very quickly that he didn't NEED to pay attention, his verdict was made up in his mind and has been since 1993.The fix was already in, and those people didn't have a chance.
I also want to inform people of the restrictions the Davidian lawyers had to face with this kangaroo court of mock justice. I was informed there were exactly 100 things their lawyers were forbidden by Judge Smith to discuss. Way more than the press is reporting to us. (Gee, that's surprising).
I also watched someone sabotaging the proceedings... and that was Caddell.Each step of the way he was sending the Davidians to slaughter.
He had one main objective and that was to recover his money off this thing, and get only help for children below the age of 5. So he continually
demonized the Davidians and people too long dead to defend themselves.
His opening statement consisted of, "We admit at least one fire was started by Branch Davidians...but...blah blah blah" Every press conference consisted of, "Those people (Branch Davidians) were misguided and mislead by David Koresh... they were just lambs led to slaughter.. but this is about the CHILDREN.. what about the children? If the adults would have asked me to take their case, I would have said no... this is only about the children and no one else."
His remarks very well COST the children any sort of justice they had coming.
I watched Geraldo Live on Clive Doyles couch... and I heard for myself the lie machine in action.. with Geraldo as their ringleader. I was sickened to be sitting with a man so gentle and kind, and hear lie after provable lie pour from their lips.
I watched Geraldo mock the Davidians in his mannerisms and comments, I saw him cutting off David Thibodeau's testimony, but let the government goons run their mouths unchecked and uninterrupted.
I heard Clint Van Zandt tell all of America how a Texas Ranger testified
Clive Doyle saw someone pouring fuel around back. A LIE! I wish all of
America could sit next to that gentle caring man and share a meal and just listen to what he has to say. I wish they were given a chance to defend themselves. I wish they were simply allowed to live their lives and not have to deal with such an atrocity on a daily basis.
There might not be any justice on this planet or this realm... but there WILL be on the next level, and I pray I am there to be witness.
God bless each and every one of you... survivors, attorneys and public alike. I wish I had better news to report....
Jury Finds U.S. Agents Not to Blame in Waco Case
By Marcus Kabel
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20000714/ts/crime_davidians_dc_4.html site down
Jury Advises Judge That Government Not
Responsible for Deaths at Waco
By Sherri Chunn
Associated Press Writer
WACO, Texas (AP) - A jury decided Friday that
the government does not bear responsibility for
the deaths of 80 Branch Davidians during the
cult's 1993 standoff with federal agents. A
federal judge will take the ruling into account
before delivering the verdict himself sometime
The five jurors deliberated for just 2 1/2 hours
in the $675 million wrongful-death lawsuit filed
by surviving Branch Davidians and relatives of
those who were killed in the standoff.
The plaintiffs contended that the government
should shoulder some blame for the botched raid
that started the 51-day standoff and the final
day of the siege, when the cult's compound went
up in flames.
But the jury found that the government did not
use excessive force during the raid and was not
negligent in violating a plan by driving tanks
into the compound. The panel also had been asked
whether agents contributed to or spread the fires
or violated a directive to have firefighting
equipment on the scene.
Through sometimes emotional testimony recounting
the standoff, the government contended that
agents were ambushed by heavily armed Davidians
in the raid and that suicidal members of the
group set the fires themselves on the final day.
On Monday, jurors heard audio tapes made inside
the compound, in which unidentified Branch
Davidians were heard asking "start the fire?" and
"should we light the fire?"
"This was one of the most terrible and horrible
events in our history and they want to come into
court and ask you to award them a judgment," U.S.
Attorney Michael Bradford, who defended the
government, said in closing arguments. "That
would be wrong. It would not be supported by
anything that would be just and right."
Plaintiffs' lawyers, including Ramsey Clark, who
was attorney general during Lyndon Johnson's
administration, said the deaths of the cult
members "didn't have to happen and called the
siege "the greatest domestic law enforcement
tragedy in the history of the United States."
"If the conduct of the ATF and the FBI was
performed without excessive force and without
negligence, then how in the world did it end up
with such unmitigated, disastrous effects?" Clark
said in closing arguments.
U.S. District Judge Walter Smith said he will
take the jury's findings under advisement and
render a verdict later, possibly in August.
Before the trial, Smith ruled that the jury would
not consider perhaps the most contentious issue -
whether federal agents shot at the Davidians at
the end of the siege. The judge said he will
take up that issue before issuing his final
The siege began on Feb. 28, 1993, when Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms agents tried to search the
complex and arrest David Koresh, the cult's
leader, on illegal weapons charges. Six
Davidians and four ATF agents were killed in the
The standoff ended April 19, 1993, with the
deaths of some 80 men, women and children inside
the compound from either gunshots or from the
flames that quickly engulfed the building hours
into a tear-gassing operation designed to end the
Michael Caddell, an attorney for most of the
plaintiffs, cited government documents that he
said proves agents deviated from their planned
tear-gassing operation and took steps that put
innocent people inside the compound, called Mount
Carmel, in danger.
"This case is about the children at Mount Carmel,
but it's too late to save those children,"
Caddell said. "This case is also about those
other children ... the children that will be
there with the next David Koresh. What you do
will help determine what happens to those
In the audio tapes played in court Monday, a male
voice inside the compound could be heard saying,
"Let's keep that fire going," as tanks rumbled in
Federal agents were heard warning sect members of
an impending tear-gassing operation and urged
them to surrender. On the same excerpt, a male
voice was heard asking, "Should we light the
A day earlier, an unidentified male said, "you
always wanted to be a charcoal briquette ...
There's nothing like a good fire to bring us to
The recordings were made with tiny eavesdropping
devices hidden among supplies that were sent to
the compound by the government.
Attorneys for the plaintiffs had sought to have
the tapes ruled inadmissible because the voices
could not be identified. But Smith said it
didn't matter exactly who was talking as long as
it had been determined the voices were those of
Separate from this case, Attorney General Janet
Reno last September appointed former Missouri
Sen. John Danforth as special counsel to resolve
unanswered questions about the final hours of the
A spokeswoman for Danforth, Jan Diltz, would not
comment on Friday's decision, nor would she
speculate on when Danforth might conclude his
Government behind Government, the people who pull the strings.
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ALERT: Space Radiation Storm
NASA Science News for July 14, 2000
A powerful solar flare on July 14th triggered an
intense radiation storm in the vicinity of Earth.
The eruption was followed by a fast-moving
coronal mass ejection that is expected to strike
Earth's magnetosphere as early as Saturday. The
impact could trigger Northern and Southern Lights
bright enough to be seen in spite of this
weekend's brilliant full Moon. Such a display is
by no means guaranteed, but it is possible.
Observers across the Pacific could be in for a
very rare treat: the sight of shimmering colorful
aurora during the total lunar eclipse of July 16,
July 14, 2000 -- This morning NOAA satellites and the
orbiting Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO)
recorded one of the most powerful solar flares of the
current solar cycle. Space weather forecasters had been
predicting for days that an intense flare might erupt from
the large sunspot group 9077, and today one did.
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