TIMOTHY McVEIGH

     THE EXECUTION OF A GOVERNMENT PATSY

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AMERICA... This is YOUR WAKE-UP CALL! No matter what you see on CNN or from
the other talking-heads, KNOW THIS: Your LIBERTY and JUSTICE are at stake if
they get away with executing Timothy McVeigh. Because you are next......

Video:

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Execution Eye Witness

http://www.apfn.org/movies/mcveigh-lives.WMV

RE: AMERICA... This is YOUR WAKE-UP CALL!
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:16:13 -0400
From: "Carlson, Susan L." Susan.L.Carlson@abc.com
To: "'apfn@apfn.org  '" apfn@apfn.org

please remove my soundbite from your website immediately.
there should no confusion over whether mcveigh was dead. he was. i saw him.
my comment about him "appearing to still be breathing" was misunderstood.
my point was that his death was anti-climatic. it was hard to tell his exact
moment of passing.
i regret not making that point clearer. you're using my words to
deliberately mislead people and i want any reference to me to be removed
from this webpage.

susan carlson


TIMOTHY McVEIGH died as a SOLDIER

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_soldier.htm

 

              THE EXECUTION OF A GOVERNMENT PATSY
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     AND the latest in a LONG line of Government patsy's, Tim
McVeigh. The Federal Government amassed voluminous amounts of
evidence showing that many other individuals, in addition to
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, were involved in the
implementation of the bombing. John Doe numbers' 1,2 and even 3
are quite real. McVeigh Was at LEAST a quarter mile away when the
explosives where being set (a military/government bomb developed
in the labs at Palo Alto, Calif., by Government scientists), by
Andres Straussmeier, an undercover ATF agent now living in Dublin,
and two of the "dark, swarthy" individuals, Afagian terriost's,
described by at least 12 witnesses. McVeigh was actually driving
away from the blast area when the buiding was imploted (yes, that's
 correct, imploted. Not exploded.). He was probaboly 4-5 miles away
 at the time of the blast. His rear license plate had been removed
 by Straussmeier and a description of him, and the vehicle called
 into the Highway patrol and OKC police as a possible bombing
 suspect BEFORE the detonation! And of course there are those "little
 ole' overlooked facts" of little or no sulphuric content found at
 the blast site (meaning it was NOT a fertilizer bomb); the fact that
 the building was imploded, not exploded, clearly indicating an
 internally planted bomb on key intra-support structures for the building,
 causing said support structures to be blown inwards towards each other,
 causing the building to basically "fold in" on itself. A fertilizer
 bomb causes a rather dramatic outward release of energy, or explosion.
 This was not the case in OKC. And how about the fact that the van
 involved in this diaster, the Ryder van, was seen 2 days before the
 bombing at an U.S. Army camp some 80 miles outside of OKC. It then
 showed up in the rubble. I'm SURE. therefore, that the Military could
 have had NOTHING to do with this! Or the fact that the then Sheriff of
 the county was ordered offsite when at 3:00 A.M. he discovered certain
 Military and Federal agency personell REMOVING undetonated exposivies
 cased in Military OD Green canvas (cases). Or perhaps it was that app.
 35 Federal AGents where phoned at home the previous evening and told to
 STAY AWAY from the Federal Center Building that day, to not report for
 work THERE......and that app.4 AGents where not told this, and died in
 the blast. The fact that these 4 agents had information they where taking
 to the Grand Jury on the Clinton's and the Bush's illegal actitvies that
 week had nothing to do with it, I'm sure........read on, this is just the
 begininng.
      If there is actually someone "out there" that beileves Tim McVeigh
 acted alone, well, the Earth stopped rotating on it's axis yeterday,
 didn't it? Wake up people - though he may deserve the punishament that
 is about to be meted out, there should be app. 20 others lying beside
 him with their arms strapped down. They include the likes of Bush Sr.,
 who ordered the bombing, the Clintons, Lawerence, David and Nelson
 Rockefeller, Kissenger, the director's of the FBI, CIA, DOD, ATF, NSA -
 the command staff of NATO.....be a damn full Gurney, wouldn't it?
 McVeigh is another Oswald, another James Earl Ray, another......Government
 patsy. And that is ALL..........these events are carefully planned
 and orcharstraed by a group known as the Office Of policy Initiative,
 and a variety of Federal agencies and the goons that work for them. Their
 goal is to creat so much violence and chaos that the American people
 will CRY OUT for the government to completely "take over", do away with
 the Constitution and Bill Of Rights, that is, and to disarm the rest of
 those pesky ole' Patriots would stubbernly INSIST on their Freedom and
 their rights as guarrenteed under those old, brittle old-dated documents!
 Damn them anyway.......I mean, who wants to be free, anyway?????? And you
 people are so dumb, and so materlistic and self-centered, that you are letting
 them do it. Well, you'll soon get what you deserve, slavery. Wake up folks,
 time is running out. Attached to this document is a zip file that contains
 several police radio transcripts on the evening before, and the day of the blast.
The remainder of these transcripts are available on the Web. It is quite clear
from them that the "Fix is in".



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URGENT ALERT: **STOP** THE McVEIGH 'PATSY' EXECUTION! [PART 1]
Date:   5/27/01 8:16:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time

Regardless what you "know" about Tim McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing,
unless you read D. Kidd's detailed report you do NOT have all the facts. 
This is WORTH the time it takes to read and forward.  Oklahoma State Rep.
Charles Key risked his all to forward the TRUTH about the CONTROLLED MEDIA
AND U.S. GOVERNMENT LIES.  He cared more about his fellow man and his country
than his "seat in the legislature".  A rare breed in today's climate.   We owe
him our deepest respect and gratitude.


DO NOT LET THE DEATHS OF 168 INNOCENT PEOPLE AT OKLAHOMA CITY GO UNANSWERED.
WRITE, CALL AND E-MAIL YOUR ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS, INCLUDING PRESIDENT
BUSH, ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT AND THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES TO **STOP**
THE PLANNED EXECUTION OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH IN JUNE.

This article is very good, with lots of links to VERY REVEALING materials at
her sites, materials which many of you have never seen before. This will help
understand what really happened at OKC... and it is NOT what the media moguls
or the FBI have told you. THEY ARE LYING! The TRUTH of what you will read at
Devvy's website link above is something the government does NOT want you to
learn. The government is guilty of obstruction of justice and violating the
basic premise of due process of law. GEORGE BUSH SR., BILL CLINTON, JANET RENO,
LOUIS FREEH, and their 'HENCHMEN' are all guilty of complicity in the SEDITIOUS,
TREASONOUS, MURDER of 168 innocent Americans.


BTW, if any of you think McVeigh's execution was initially stopped just
because of the FBI having 'found' documents that were ho-hum, never turned
over to the defense, THINK again! The FBI and government complicity dictates
that they are 'micro-managing' this entire event. And the media is only
giving you 'sound-bytes'. (The REAL reason behind the halting of the first
scheduled execution is that Bush Sr., the Clinton's, Reno and about 20 other
people will loose their scapegoat. The truth will eventually "get out", and
the real criminals will be named and the consequences that follow will be
inevitable. Thus, keep the patsy, the scapegoat alive! As long as possible!)

The reason for halting McVeigh's 'planned' May execution date was a
lawsuit filed by JANE GRAHAM, a 9th floor survivor of the Oklahoma City
Murrah Building MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS that occurred in the basement of the
building where satchel type charges of possibly fulminated mercury or C-4
plastic explosive were attached to the columns themselves. As you will read
in Jane Grahams sworn affidavit, she was a WITNESS to not only the pouring of
wet concrete into the 24 or 25' craters in the basement of the building -
AFTER the BOMBS went off, but was also a WITNESS to two individuals wearing
GSA employee uniforms - who were NOT GSA employees - and whom she observed in
the basement of the Murrah Federal Building at 8:15 AM - before the
explosions - stringing wire.

Notice I stated 'BOMBS' as in more-than-one. You see, I TOO AM A WITNESS... I
have an original copy of the seismic data that Dr. Charles Mankin at the
University of Oklahoma at Norman, FAXed to me, shortly after the explosions
occurred. The seismic recordings reveal at least TWO bombs, if not more, that
went off within 10-seconds of one another on April 19, 1995. Nord Davis of
Northpoint Teams and the entire Northpoint Team Members were supplied with
copies of this same data... to make sure that the TRUTH could not be buried
or destroyed.

PART 2 of this URGENT ALERT message will reveal that because of certain
individuals who we know were involved, and the fact that the ATF offices were
vacated the night before on Tuesday, April 18th, this bombing was the work of
a COVERT GROUP inside the Federal Government, with the full knowledge of
Clinton and Ms. Reno. We will show that "Suspect #1", Timothy McVeigh, is a
part of that team, employed as a government asset and made the rounds of
patriot organizations. We allege that had he not been stopped by the Oklahoma
State Police on a traffic violation of 'no license plate', he and his
partner, "John Doe #2" would have been, as we say in intelligence circles,
"double cut-outs," that is, killed as was Lee Harvey Oswald, to silence them.
We believe that "John Doe #2" is a man from Mena, Arkansas who goes by the
name(s) of Brown or Boyd. The FBI knows the identity of this man and probably
where he is, although he may have already been terminated with extreme
prejudice to insure McVeigh's cooperation. The Oklahoma Highway Patrolman, we
believe, was not in the "loop". He did his job not knowing that McVeigh was
to get away. McVeigh had a concealed and loaded 9mm handgun.

We will also reveal that the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City, was a deliberate inside job, and by the very same Group of
traitors who planned and executed The Waco Massacre. Their purpose, with the
help of CNN, was/is to formulate public opinion as totalitarian socialist
Hitler did, for the passage of certain UNCONSTITUTIONAL firearms bills, such
as HR-1488, which gives the BATF broad, expanded powers. Even more important
to them was/is the passage of the Biden-Schumer 'anti-terrorist' bill, which
was before Congress at the time of the explosions. In these conspirator's
minds, the passage of these bills, and the disarming of American Citizens who
know, at least in part, what's going on, is well worth the deaths of a mere
250 people. They think this way with the same AMORAL mind-set as they had
when they murdered 80+ men, women and children at Waco. There was barely a
whimper from the American people. They did so with the same reckless abandon
as they had when they murdered 500,000 innocent men, women and children in
northern Iraq in the City of Nineveh raids which were televised on Iraqi
TV... and which Nord Davis witnessed first-hand while in Amman, Jordan in
1991. You did not know of this atrocity? That's because the five white guys
on the stupid-tube never bothered to tell you.

As Nord Davis of Northpoint Teams stated on April 22, 1995: "The Northpoint
Teams fully understand that the intelligence contained in our first Oklahoma
City report is far different than the intensive propaganda that you have
watched on Hanoi Jane Fonda's husband's network: CNN. As Hitler once stated,
'If the LIE is LARGE ENOUGH, everyone will believe it.'"

AMERICA... This is YOUR WAKE-UP CALL! No matter what you see on CNN or from
the other talking-heads, KNOW THIS: Your LIBERTY and JUSTICE are at stake if
they get away with executing Timothy McVeigh. Because you are next......

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The Federal Government amassed voluminous amounts of evidence showing that
many other individuals, in addition to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols,
were involved in the implementation of the bombing.  Those individuals were
named by the Federal Government in indictments and in both Federal trials,
as "Others Unknown," but were conveniently culled out by Federal
prosecutors.  The information in this chapter was obtained from actual
government documents, the findings of private investigators hired by OKBIC,
and from eyewitnesses.  For purposes of this summary, sources are not
quoted herein and some individuals are indicated by initials only.

Immediately after the bombing, reports surfaced of Middle-Easterners in the
area of the Murrah Building just prior to, or after the explosion.  [See
Chapter, "The Eyewitnesses"]. Fifteen hours after the bombing, the FBI
deployed Arab linguists throughout the country.  Their aim was to interpret
wiretaps and eavesdrop on live conversations.  After the bombing, they
remained on duty to monitor wiretaps of radical fundamentalist Islamic
groups in an effort to protect President Clinton when he attended the
Memorial Service in Oklahoma City on 23 April.

A downtown Oklahoma City business owner reported seeing FBI and DEA agents
retrieving documents that were flying out of the Murrah Building
immediately after the bombing.  He also saw a man wearing an FBI jacket
talking on a pay phone in front of his business, using a Middle-Eastern
dialect.  The following day, he saw one or two other FBI agents using the
phone and talking in Arabic.

It is not known if there is actually a connection between the bombing and
this eavesdropping activity.  However, the Government released thousands of
documents to Timothy McVeigh's defense team which included references to a
spying operation and to an assassination plot by Islamic extremists.

Terry Nichols frequently visited the Philippines where he possibly
developed connections with Arabs.

 From 1990 to 1995, Nichols visited the Philippines frequently, ostensibly
to visit his mail-order bride, who, at one point, lived in a boarding house
where Muslim students from the Philippine island of Mindanao resided.
The island is home to more than 500 radical Muslim fighters.  Even when she
no longer lived there, phone records show that Nichols made more than a
dozen phone calls to the boarding house.  Her father reported that he had
seen Nichols in the possession of a book on the topic of building bombs.

While it may seem inconceivable that "Others Unknown" may include Middle
Eastern extremists, white separatists, German, Russian, and Japanese
extremists, it is a fact that very often, cooperation among these groups
occurs.  The one common thread among them is their hatred for the United
States Government and for the Jews.

The Stockholm Revisionist Historian Conference, held in Sweden in November
1992 is an example of how these diverse groups come together for a common
cause.  The movement disputes many historical facts, such as the existence
of the Holocaust.  The Conference was attended by numerous Nazi and
Neo-Nazi figures, members of two Arab extremist groups, Japanese
extremists, and a Russian extremist group.

Nazi-Middle East collaborations date back to at least World War II.
After the war, former Major General Ernest Rhemer fled Germany to settle in
the Middle East where he established intelligence operations for several
Arab emirates.  Rhemer is prominent in the revisionist movement.

A Swiss Nazi has masterminded several airplane hijackings by the Palestine
Liberation Organization (PLO).

A former Nazi was convicted in German in July 1994 for trading nuclear and
SCUD rocket detonation technology to Iraq.

A former Nazi scientist assisted in recruiting former Nazi and East German
scientists to work on Libyan and Iraqi chemical weapons projects.

In the 1980's, a Neo-Nazi, financed by a terrorist organization founded by
Yassir Arafat, attacked several U.S.  military installations in Germany
with bombs.

There are numerous documented instances where militant Neo-Nazi members are
also members of the PLO or the Popular Front for the Liberation of
Palestine (PFLP).

U.S.  involvement in the Gulf War generated great hostility among
Neo-Nazis.  For example, the head of the Anti-Zionist Legion in Germany
organized campaigns for Saddam Hussein during the war; this individual has
connections with the attorney for Andrew Strassmeir and numerous other
militant individuals and organizations.

After the Gulf War, Iraqi prisoners were resettled in the U.S., and there
are scores of Middle-Eastern students attending U.S.  colleges and
universities.  The University of Oklahoma has one of the largest Arab
populations.  While many of these Middle-Easterners are law-abiding
citizens and visitors, it is likely that some are "plants" from
government-sanctioned extremist organizations and are prepared to
participate in any terrorist act that their respective countries order.

Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier often traveled
throughout the country to gun shows where they mixed with white extremists,
and they also made contact with various paramilitary groups.
One resident of Elohim City was a long-time personal friend of McVeigh's.

It is possible that there were ties to Russia and the Philippines with
regard to the bombing.
In late May 1994, CG, an FBI informant, met with two Arabs and several
others, one of whom looked like Terry Nichols.  He noted that the group
represented a variety of backgrounds: Iran, Iraq, Columbia, Ireland and
Neo-Nazis, and seemed to have unlimited monetary resources and an elaborate
network for smuggling and gathering information on judges and federal
buildings.

 From January to April 1995, CG reported the activities of the group to the
FBI, including a meeting at which terrorists presented architectural
drawings of the Murrah Building.  CG was assigned to obtain the names and
addresses of federal judges.  He went to Oklahoma City to assess security
and check out the fifth floor of the Murrah Building and a few weeks later,
a terrorist informed CG that a federal building would be bombed within the
next few weeks.
Mexico City is home to one of the largest Soviet consulates in the Western
Hemisphere.  The Russians are still a viable presence there and continue to
employ intelligence officers.

In 1992, MT overheard a conversation between her father, a former Communist
official in Mexico City who worked for the PLO, a Palestinian, and a
Middle-Easterner in which they discussed a bombing plot to be carried out
in the United States.  One of the men stated that "Russian officers told us
we can probably blame 'American Patriots' and all the stupid stuff with the
white supremacists and the neo-Nazis.  So we can give two strikes at once."
MT explained that "two strikes" was sanctioned by the Communist Party and
by certain Arab leaders.

MT's father offered to hire a white male to pose as a neo-Nazi to
participate with his Arab comrades.  MT reported that the plan involved
bombing a building in mid-America; it had to be an office building and
children had to be involved because "it was a very important part of the
emotional part of the strike."

Audio tapes made of MT's testimony were stress-analyzed and indicated that
she was truthful.

An all-points bulletin (APB) is the initial announcement made on radio
frequencies to law enforcement agencies to identify suspects who need to be
apprehended.

Immediately after the bombing, an APB was broadcast to be on the alert for
a brown Chevrolet pickup truck containing suspects of apparent
Middle-Eastern origin.  The source of the APB was a woman who, immediately
after the bombing, observed two men of Middle-Eastern extraction running
from the vicinity of the Murrah Building to a late model Chevrolet pickup
truck.  Later the same day, the FBI rescinded the APB with no explanation.
Why did the FBI rescind the APB if they were still wanting information
about John Doe #2 almost a month after the bombing?

Several Mid-Easterners were reported to governmental agencies because of
suspicious actions.

AAA, a Jordanian national, departed Oklahoma City on American Airlines two
hours after the bombing.  Airline employees reported his suspicious
behavior to security who notified the Chicago office of the FBI.  Upon his
arrival in Chicago, AAA was detained and questioned by the FBI and then
released and allowed to fly to London, since he had missed his connection
to Rome.  In London, he was deemed ineligible for re-entry and returned to
the United States where he was again interrogated and released.

His luggage continued on the original flight to Rome where Italian
officials searched it and found multiple car radios; a substantial quantity
of shielded and unshielded wire; a small toolkit and other tools consistent
with use for both explosive devices and also for general electronic repair;
blue jogging pants with floral pattern around the neck; black sweatpants;
video cassette recorder; and a solder.  It is interesting to note that the
jogging suit matched the description given by the original APB witness.

Dr.  K has amassed millions of dollars in real estate, and the brown pickup
truck described in APBs was seen parked in front of his business.
He traveled frequently to Las Vegas, where sources report that he laundered
funds for the PLO.  Dr.  K was introduced to a "couple of white guys" in
Las Vegas.  Terry Nichols visited his son there on numerous trips and he
and McVeigh also occasionally frequented the city.  Is it possible they met
with Dr.  K there?
Dr.  K's ex-wife was killed in the Murrah Building bombing.  By her death,
Dr.  K stood to regain a considerable amount of property that he lost in
their divorce and which would now go to their daughter, a minor.

HAH, an employee of Dr.  K.  was identified by an eyewitness as being the
driver of the brown pickup truck that had almost hit her in downtown
Oklahoma City immediately after the bombing.  HAH and AAA were good friends.

On the Saturday before the bombing, HAH was seen with McVeigh drinking beer
in a bar in Oklahoma City.  HAH denied being in the bar or drinking alcohol
because alcohol is forbidden by Muslim law..  However, a police report
dated 03 June 1995, shows that he was passed out behind the wheel of a
vehicle still in "drive" when officers arrived.  He was given a
blood-alcohol showing a .21 blood-alcohol concentration.  The incident
occurred only several hundred yards from the bar HAH claims never to have
been in.

A waitress in a bar in downtown Oklahoma City saw McVeigh buying drinks for
a man strongly resembling John Doe #2.  When shown photos of HAH, she
positively identified him as McVeighíís "drinking buddy."

A pickup truck was abandoned in the parking lot of an apartment complex
which was identified by an FBI agent as being the brown pickup truck sought
in the APB issued on the day of the bombing.

Mr.  and Mrs.  R lived in an apartment complex where they reported seeing a
yellow pickup truck in the parking lot.  It was later determined by the FBI
that it had originally been brown but repainted yellow.

Mrs.  R told the FBI that she had seen the driver and he appeared to be
"Middle Eastern or whatever." She asked a friend, an art teacher, to sketch
a likeness of the man based on her description.  The sketch was not of the
same individual appearing in the John Doe #2 sketch.  Mr.  and Mrs.  R
contacted the FBI to inform them of the sketch but the FBI did not return
their call.  When the FBI did not contact them, Mr.  and Mrs.  R contacted
the CBS affiliate in Oklahoma City and their story was aired.
The broadcaster was subsequently fired, allegedly for using an audiotape
from NBC regarding the APB.

 From 19 April until 25 April 1995, Mr.  and Mrs.  R., separately and
together, saw the truck numerous times.  On 26 July 1995, Mrs.  R saw a man
driving a car who was the same man she had seen driving the pickup.  She
wrote down the license plate and had it checked.  The car that the tag was
on was not the car it was registered to.  On the evening of the 25th, it
was impounded by the FBI.

In the Writ of Mandamus for Timothy McVeigh's trial, his attorney, Stephen
Jones, stated that FBI sources in Washington DC indicated that three males
of Middle Eastern origin rented a brown Chevrolet pickup truck at the
Dallas/Ft.  Worth International Airport.  Witnesses have reported seeing
three men speed away in a brown pickup truck following the bombing.

Following the bombing, a search was initiated for white supremacist
conspirators.  Twenty days after the bombing, two older men were questioned
by the FBI in Carthage, Missouri.
Robert Jacks Suspects The two men, identified as Gary Allen Land and Robert
Jacks had lived across the street from McVeigh in Kingman, Arizona.

McVeigh and Nichols were in the company of a man identifying himself as
Robert "Jacks" when they visited the real estate office of WM in Cassville,
Missouri.  Another realtor in the office, JLD, reported that "Jacks" was
the trio's spokesman.  The land that WM showed the group on maps was only
half a mile from the Branch Davidian compound, a sister organization of the
group in Waco, Texas.  WM saw photos of Land and Jacks on television and
contacted the FBI to report that neither of them were the man who had
accompanied Nichols and McVeigh to his office.  WM assisted an FBI sketch
artist in creating a drawing of the man who had been with McVeigh and
Nichols and noted that the man was a young man, rather than an older man,
as Lane and Jacks were described.
JLD confirmed WM's description, saying that the individual might be "a
little bit Hawaiian."

Nichols owned property with an airstrip in Cassville which he leased to a
man in Wichita, Kansas.  In October 1999, a piece of property across the
lake from Nichols' property was sold by a Robert A.  Jacques from Wichita.

BW owns a diner in Nichols' hometown, Herington, Kansas.  One morning,
Nichols, McVeigh, and another man in a Ryder truck came in and ordered
coffee.  She asked where they were going and the third man answered,
"Oklahoma." Since they immediately left without breakfast, she felt that
the man had said something that he should not have said.  When shown a
sketch of a suspect, BW said it was a near resemblance to the third man,
who appeared to her to be Hawaiian.

An Odessa, Texas resident, Robert Jacquez died from injuries sustained in
an industrial accident.  Reportedly, he had been friends with a neighbor of
Michael Fortier.  The neighbor had lived in Odessa for 18 months following
the bombing and he and Jacquez had shared a post office box.
Reportedly, a third person shared the post office box.  Fortier's neighbor
claimed that he never knew Jacquez and does not know the identity of the
third person.  The neighbor was also a friend of McVeigh's and McVeigh had
asked him to drive a getaway car but he declined.

Jacquez had been employed as a roustabout in Odessa; he quit in September
1994.  From then until Christmas Eve, his whereabouts could not be
corroborated through any public records.  That period of time encompasses
the timeframe in which Robert "Jacks" was in the realtor's office in
Cassville, Missouri.  When Jacquez returned to Odessa, he told friends that
he had been working as a DEA narcotics informant.

Another Robert Jacks was driving an armored car that made a delivery to the
Murrah Building moments before the bombing.

It is believed that the FBI has not shown their sketch of Robert Jacks to
any of the eyewitnesses in Kansas or Oklahoma City.  The FBI chief
investigator of the bombing mandated that all leads regarding Gary Land and
Robert Jacques were to be forwarded directly to him and not be filtered by
subordinates.

SCG, a former research associate in DNA studies at Cedars-Sinai Research
Institute in Los Angeles with a degree in chemistry was arrested on weapons
charges on 13 May 1995 in Oatman, Arizona.  The site of the arrest was
located 20 miles from Kingman, the home of Michael Fortier.  When his
property was searched, cases of weapons were found, along with stolen
medical supplies.  He had a laboratory for the manufacture of
methamphetamine on his property as well.

SGC claimed to have known McVeigh, under his alias, "Tim Tuttle." An
associate of SCG described him as having anti-government and pro-Nazi
sympathies.

A brown pickup truck with a white camper shell had been parked at SCG's
residence.  Terry Nichols had parked a similar truck at a storage space in
Las Vegas from November 1994 to 18 January 1995.  Sightings of a brown
pickup truck occurred in Oklahoma City before and after the bombing.  A
witness saw a brown pickup truck pull over, then pull away, as McVeigh was
stopped and arrested by the Highway Patrol.

There were witnesses who stated that SGC was out of town for two or three
weeks prior to the bombing.  However, SGC's roommate, PSH, stated that he
was with him in Oatman, Arizona when the bombing occurred.  SGC's employer
reported that he was in Los Angeles at the time of the bombing where he was
visiting his mother, who had had a stroke.

Elohim City is located near the Oklahoma-Arkansas border consisting of 240
acres of largely undeveloped land; 25 to 30 families live there.
Robert Millar is the leader and founder of the white supremacist group,
which advocates polygamy and the overthrow of the U.S.  government.

Elohim City supposedly has close ties with other extremist groups such as
The Covenant, Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), a Christian identity
movement.  Prior to Millar becoming involved with the CSA, Elohim City did
not have weapons.  Once the two organizations merged, however, the CSA
provided Elohim City with weapons training.

The CSA's second-in-command, Terry Noble, stated that in 1983, the CSA
planned to bomb the Murrah Building when their leaders determined it would
be the perfect target since it housed many governmental agencies, had
little security, and would cause a significant impact because it would not
be an expected target.  They had planned to use a rocket launcher for the
attack.

Exactly 10 years to the day before the actual bombing, the Government
raided the CSA at its compound in Arkansas.  Millar visited the site to
lend moral support, but the compound ultimately surrendered three members,
Jim Ellison, Terry Noble, and Richard Snell.

Snell was later convicted of murdering a pawnbroker, whom he thought was
Jewish, and a black highway patrolman in Arkansas.  He was sentenced to
death and later executed on 19 April 1995.  Millar urged the government to
delay the execution because of the significance of the date.
Snell stated that the Governor would regret not changing the date and he
warned of a bomb.

The Bridges calling card phone records show that a call was made from a
motel in Kingman, Arizona to Elohim City.  Millar initially denied that
such a call was received; however, when confronted with phone records, he
admitted that a call may have been placed to "Andy," a nickname for Andrew
Strassmier.  Strassmier admitted that he met McVeigh at a gun show .  He
possibly gave a business card to McVeigh with the phone number for Elohim
City on it.
The Bridges card shows a call from a motel in Kingman to the Ryder truck
rental in Lake Havasu, Arizona on 05 April 1995.  Three minutes later the
call was made to Elohim City.  Later that evening, a call was made to the
National Alliance in Mohave Valley, Arizona, followed by six more calls
there in the next two days.  The National Alliance is an extremist group
led by William Pierce, the author of The Turner Diaries, the book
characterized by the government as the "blueprint" for the Oklahoma City
bombing.

McVeigh has denied ever being in Elohim City.  However, in 1993, he
received a traffic ticket 20 miles from the compound on the only road that
leads there.  In 1994, he stayed in a motel one-half hour west of Elohim City.

Elohim City has been a temporary home to six individuals charged in a
series of bank robberies.  Allegedly, the funds derived from the robberies
were used to fund activities of the Aryan Revolutionary Army.  There has
been some speculation that the robberies helped finance the Oklahoma City
bombing.

Dennis Mahon, a former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and the third
person in authority in the White Aryan Resistance Movement, has also
resided at Elohim City and was a friend of ATF informant, Carol
Howe.  Robert Millar became aware that the ATF planned a possible raid of
the compound.  Reportedly, members within the compound vowed that Elohim
City would not become another Waco and that they would strike first in a
"Holy War." It became known that the FBI and ATF each had their own
informants placed at Elohim City.  Because of this duplication of efforts,
any planned sting operation was canceled.

The bombing in Oklahoma City proved the validity of Howe's information, and
immediately after the explosion, she returned to Elohim City at the behest
of the FBI.  Howe's usefulness as an informant was terminated once it was
learned that she would testify for the defense in McVeigh's trial.  Her
handler testified later that Howe had warned her of the bombing.
Dennis Mahon, former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and leader with
the White Aryan Resistance (WAR), referred to the Oklahoma City bombing as,
"a fine thing," and has openly proclaimed his hatred for the federal
government.

ATF informant Carol Howe reported Mahon discussing the targeting of federal
installations and that when she was a guest in Mahon's home in Tulsa, that
he received a phone call from Tim Tuttle (McVeigh's alias).
Howe saw McVeigh at Elohim City in the company of Peter Ward and Strassmier
in July 1994.  Mahon and Strassmier visited Oklahoma City in November and
December 1994 and again in February 1995.  Howe accompanied them on the
December 1994 trip.

Howe thought the sketches of John Doe #1 and John Doe #2 looked like
brothers, Tony and Peter Ward, both residents of Elohim City.
According to Howe, Strassmier was in charge of security and weapons
training there.

Mahon made a tape to be delivered through an intermediary to McVeigh after
his arrest.  The intermediary, however, relinquished the tape to McVeigh's
attorney, Stephen Jones.  On the tape, Mahon told McVeigh that he was
"innocent by reason of entrapment," and that he should accept the sacrifice
for the sake of justice.  Jones stated that he is not certain how Mahon's
message should be interpreted.  He does not know if Mahon was telling
McVeigh to sacrifice himself for justice, or if the message was a veiled
threat against McVeigh's family that if he talked, his family was vulnerable.

Mahon produced several videotapes opposing U.S.  policy in Iraq, for which
he received monthly allotments from Iraq.  He also made several trips to
Germany to assist in establishing a chapter of WAR in Stockholm Sweden with
the aim of smuggling terrorist information into Germany.

Andrew "Andy" Strassmier is a German national and the grandson of a founder
of the Nazi party.  His father was the Secretary of State for West Germany
and member of the Christian Democratic Coalition.  Strassmier was a former
lieutenant in Germany's Panzer Grenadiers (similar to the U.S.  Special
Forces) and trained in military intelligence.

In 1992, Strassmeir went to Elohim City where he assumed the position of
Chief of Security in weapons training.  His knowledge of weaponry was the
most lethal of any other resident of the compound because of his military
training.

In late 1993, FBI Director Louis Freeh went to Germany to meet with German
internal security officials who told Freeh that Strassmier had been "nation
hopping" between Germany and the U.S.  They expressed concerns about
Strassmier's involvement with the neo-Nazi movement.

Prior to January 1994, 22 banks and armored cars were robbed in seven
states; seven of the robberies occurred after the Oklahoma City bombing.
An estimated total of $250,000 was stolen over a period of two years.
Some people believe that these robberies funded McVeigh's actions
pertaining to the bombing.

McVeigh's sister claims that, in December 1994, he asked her to launder an
amount of one-dollar bills.  Furthermore, he told her that he had been
involved in planning a bank robbery, but did not actually participate in it
and the money was his share of the proceeds.
The original leaders of the "Bank Bandits," as they were dubbed by the
press, were Richard L.  "Wild Bill" Guthrie, Jr.  and Peter "Commander
Pedro" Langan, the son of a CIA employee.  Guthrie was arrested on 15
January 1996 with the help of a Government source and with Guthrie's
assistance, Langan was arrested three day later.  On 11 August, 1996,
Langan's attorneys requested that Guthrie be transferred from the Kentucky
jail where he was being held, to Ohio, where Langan would be tried.  The
following day, Guthrie was found hanged in his prison cell.

Mark Thomas, a Pennsylvania native, was a part-time truck driver with an
eighth grade education.  For over 25 years, he was involved in
organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the Aryan
Republican Army.  He was the leader of an extremist organization, the
"Posse Comitatus" in Pennsylvania, and he was in Elohim City on Thursday
before the bombing.  He was arrested in January 1997 for conspiracy and for
receiving proceeds from the Midwest bank robberies.
The next month he changed his plea from innocent to guilty in exchange for
a reduced sentence for his cooperation.
When Mahon learned of Thomas' cooperation with authorities, he publicly
stated that he was disappointed that Thomas had "cracked so quickly," and
that he had possibly ruined 25 years of development in the Aryan
movement.  Mahon admitted to sending funds to Thomas' pregnant wife and child.

In February 1997, Kevin McCarthy pled guilty to robbing a Missouri bank and
participating in the planning of five other robberies.  He cooperated with
prosecutors to help convict at least two of his fellow bank robbers: Scott
Stedeford and Peter Langan.  Stedeford was convicted of bank robbery in an
Iowa bank heist.

Michael Brescia was involved in a Wisconsin robbery.  His co-conspirators
were all arrested and convicted.  Brescia has not been arrested or indicted
for any crime.  He dropped out of college in his third year and left for
Oklahoma where he told friends he had a job waiting.
Actually, he moved to Elohim City where he married Robert Millar's
granddaughter.
The day after the bombing, CL, a college student and close friend of
McVeigh, informed the FBI that she identified John Doe #2 as Brescia.
CL had attended the same parties in Kansas that McVeigh attended.
CL's mother recognized Brescia in the sketch and notified the FBI, who
ignored her information.

At the time of the bombing, Strassmier claims that Brescia was in Little
Rock, Arkansas attending a clemency hearing for Richard Snell.  On the day
the Ryder truck was rented, Brescia was in Elohim City preparing Snell's
grave, according to Robert Millar's daughter.
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            MCVEIGH HAD TO ASK DIRECTIONS TO MURRAH BUILDING

                                        
     I think that Charles Key and his investigative committee, Stephen Jones and Timothy  James McVeigh's various legal teams, know more about it than anyone else - besides the  guilty parties still running free. Charles Key is one very courageous, decent American  that we all owe a debt of gratitude to for his tenacity in staying on top of exposing the  lies and truths about this crime at horrendous personal expense and sacrifice. One thing I do know: There are too many discrepancies and too many lies that need to be explored  and the so-called "mainstream media" in this country, and I now include the "fair and balanced" FOX, are complicit in keeping the truth from the American people.

"An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the
right and courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue without which popular
government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce
in time a people as base as itself."

Joseph Pulitzer, American newspaper publisher

The current blarney being spewed by the "mainstream media" and the government is that
"witnesses can't be relied upon for accuracy." Yet, this was exactly the opposite when
the feds were building their case against McVeigh and Nichols. Well, here's a little news
flash for you: A very credible eye-witness says that shortly before the bombing, McVeigh,
or his look-alike, stopped to ask directions to the Murrah Building. That's right, he was
lost. Huh?

McVeigh, allegedly in his interview with the two Buffalo reporters, gave a detailed
description of his two fuses that were integrated into the big, yellow beacon (Ryder truck)
and how he set them to go off a few minutes apart. This is such crap, it defies imagination.
As I have said before, we have too many McVeigh's running around. If you were going to
blow up a building in a certain city, wouldn't you at least know how to get there? How
come you have to stop and ask directions? Set fuses while your butt is in the truck?
Oh, sure. What happens if you miss a light or something and you're delayed?

How come, and I've said this 100 times already, McVeigh had no problem driving this
weapon of mass destruction up to the front of the building, getting out where everyone
could identify him, set the fuses and then walk away? This is the same guy who a short
time before that was asking directions to the location of the building he was going to
bomb? Maybe because whoever drove up in front of the building looked similar to Tim McVeigh,
but wasn't the Timothy James McVeigh, had no fear of being caught?

The Bombs

This remains the key to the whole crime and there are differing opinions on this.
worldnetdaily.com has done a wonderful job in bringing forward all this information that
was reported years ago. They are the biggee of today's new media and I am grateful for their
coverage. However, last week they ran excerpts from a book by Evans Ambrose-Pritchard (which I
purchased when it first came out) that highlights the "investigative" reporting of
one J.D. Cash.

I would be less than honest if I said anything other than I wouldn't believe a word that
comes out of J.D. Cash's mouth. Why? Since I don't want to get sued, I'll refrain from
comment. I'll just let it stand that I do not believe him. However, please remember, there
are a number of people, myself included, who go way back six years and were intensely
looking into this crime. Cash has always attempted to steer people away from bombs in
the building and rather look to explosives and ordinance inside the building kept by the ATF.

Was there this type of material in the Murrah Building? Yes, and you can read about
this on the piece posted today on worldnetdaily.com with Charles Key:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23076  

That piece I reference above is very good and I hope you take time to read it. There is
too much evidence, i.e. events as they unfolded, that prove in my mind beyond a shadow
of a doubt, coupled with expert opinions, that there were additional bombs in the building.
Could ordinance in the building when the first bomb went off have caused damage as
J.D. Cash has consistently tried to steer people to for six years? Sure, but not the
damage caused from explosives placed on the columns as many of us believe. Cash wants
you to stay focused on white supremacist groups and Eloim City. He's certainly entitled to
his opinion, but I believe that is a diversion.

A lot of people have put a lot of time into this crime. Michelle Moore, Pat Breilly,
Bill Jasper, honest law enforcement. So much good information has come from their efforts
in trying to put together the pieces to the puzzle. Historical material that depicts
the event as it unfolded is critical. You can listen to a live CNN feed that will make
you realize what liars the government and the "mainstream" media are and continue to be.
Also remember this: The audio you will hear was live, just like the video Cover-Up
in Oklahoma City. It isn't speculation, conspiracy or made-up. These tv stations
had reporters right there on the scene, each trying to scoop the other on what law
enforcement was saying, doing and what was found.
http://www.radiofreeomaha.com/ 

Audio Portion of Feeds to CNN Day Of Oklahoma City Bombing
I used the version below:
Downloadable Winamp version (you can save to disc and open from location..ect) 862kb
A great deal of this can be seen and heard on the video, Cover Up in Oklahoma City:
http://www.devvy.com/ord.html 

A lot of people do not have audio capacity on their computer system, so I have taken the
time to listen and type out this feed for you. Please remember, like the video mentioned
above, this is all live as it's happening. Now, whose lying, Mr.Ashcroft?

Transcript of the live audio broadcast. This broadcast is several TV anchors talking
back and forth:
"Another bomb. Move back.
"Oh, my God, another bomb.

"Now confirmed through federal authorities, that a second bomb has been found inside that
federal building in OKC. It was an explosion 9:00 this morning that did that damage
you're looking at right there.

"I took another look down the street at the Murrah Building again. I see another bomb
truck going, so apparently they're going to try to get out that third bomb that's
been talked about.

"At the present time the medical teams downtown are unable to get into the wreckage
to retrieve more of the injured because of the presence of other bombs in the area.
I've been told by the police department that just as soon as those bombs are diffused,
they will permit the medical teams to enter. The 1st bomb that was in the federal
building did go off. You can see right there. The 2nd explosive was found and diffused.
The 3rd explosive that was found, and they're working on right now as we speak,
I understand . Both the 2nd and 3rd explosives, if you can imagine this, were larger
than the first.

"The Justice Department is reporting that the 2nd explosive has been found in the
AP Murrah Building in downtown OKC.

"The reports I have is that, one device was deactivated. Apparently there is another
device and obviously whatever did the damage to the Murrah Building was a tremendous,
very sophisticated explosive device, so-

"Right now they are saying that this is the work of a sophisticated group. This is a
very, uh, sophisticated, uh, device, and, umm, it has to have been done by an explosive
expert. Obviously with this type of explosion-

"Two other explosive devices were found and were not detonated and they were larger
than the first, but there were more bombs set to go off according to ATF officials.

Uh, what we have here, you can see here we have the Sheriff's bomb squad who are
very, very busy today, they just pulled up and they are continuing to stay in
the area and as we have more information we will bring it to you. Back to you guys.

"We should find out an awful lot when the bombs are taken apart. I think, it was
a great stroke of luck, you're mentioning it's hard to talk about luck on a day
like today in OKC, but it was a great stroke of luck that we have actually have
got diffused bombs. It's through the bomb material that we'll be able to track
down who committed this atrocity."

Do you really think they left people injured and dying inside the building just
to plant a conspiracy theory about bombs? Remember some of the photos in my prior
posts - one of them was of the area cleared. They were bracing for more bombs
to go off. Do you really think they would go to all this trouble and leave
victims laying and hurting for more than an hour if they didn't see and identify
actual bombs? Come on. Think John Ashcroft isn't now aware of all of this? Come on.

McVeigh and Nichols - a "very sophisticated group?" The dopes at Eloim City?
Why the cover-up of the bombs? I think you can guess and it's a vile, sickening
conclusion, but inescapable. Get that video, Cover-Up in Oklahoma City and show it
to everyone you know and get on the phone to John Ashcroft's office and demand
that the execution be stayed until the state court matters involving McVeigh
have run the due process course. Let's get the ATF, the FBI, all experts and
witnesses under oath and then see what materializes.

The Medusa File

Make no mistake - there are lots of conspiracy theories out in America on a
whole variety of subjects and issues. I have a fortune invested in books and
videos of all kinds. One of the advantages I have that most people don't is
time. I gave up my career ten years ago because I could see the clear and present
danger to our Republic. I decided we could live without a second paycheck
because it was my duty to do what I can in getting the truth to my fellow countrymen.

When I hear or read something, I do my best to evaluate the material, check it out
and then make recommendations. I don't just take everything I see or hear as gospel
and pass it around -especially on the Internet. While Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's
book is very interesting on the Clinton's, because he relies so heavily on
J.D. Cash regarding the OKC bombing, I wouldn't and cannot recommend it as a
source. I do recommend The Medusa File.

This book by Craig Roberts isn't devoted entirely to the OKC bombing, although
Roberts worked the bombing investigation the third day after the crime was
committed. He was deeply involved on a level J.D. Cash and others have only
fanaticized about. I take his word and his very carefully and fully documented
presentation, over J.D. Cash's any day. This might not set well with some folks,
but it's my opinion. Let me quote from page 378 of Roberts' book:

"The end result, whether it was a covert operation to destroy records and
inflame the public, or an attack by Islamic Jihad terrorists, or a combination
of both, is that it appears that other, much higher entities than McVeigh and
Nichols are involved.

"The investigation should not stop, or even slow down, with the apprehension
of McVeigh and Nichols as the only suspects. With leads into the Right Wing,
Christian, Constitutionalist, Militia, Patriot, NRA, Conservative and other
groups - with the exception of WAR and the Eloim City/Strassmeir connection -
not developing anything of substance, it is now time to
explore the other side of the political spectrum." (This book was published in 1997)

Who is this Craig Roberts?

Craig Roberts is a 26-year veteran police officer; a U.S. Marine Vietnam
veteran, commercial helicopter and airline pilot, and author of eight non-
fiction books and one novel. He participated in the investigation of not just the
OKC, but other very high profile cases as well.

"We find few historians who have been diligent enough in their search for
truth; it is their common method to take on trust what they help distribute
to the public; by which means a falsehood once received from a famed writer
becomes traditional to posterity."

John Dryden
English Poet, 1631-1700

The Medusa File: Crimes and Cover-Ups of the U.S. Government is not a work to
be taken lightly and I say this having read a few million words from documents,
historical publications and books. I will give you a preview of the book from the
back cover and every word is absolutely true. What is well documented in this
book will make you sick. There is too much of this kind of information,
carefully crossed checked for it to be nothing more than "conspiracy theories"
or "anti-government wackos" spouting off at the mouth.

We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not lies. Our Republic cannot continue
to exist if the truth isn't exposed and the guilty hung. America simply cannot
continue to give their blind loyalty to their stupid political party over God,
flag and country. America cannot and will not survive if her own people have
become as base as this government because the truth is too painful. You can't
hide from the truth forever and it is our duty to step forward.
>From the back cover of The Medusa File:

"From World War II until the present, there has been hidden within the highest
levels of government secrets that you are not supposed to discover. During the
period of 1940-1996 the power brokers, working from their positions of trust,
have committed and then covered up the most heinous of crimes known to mankind.
Investigative journalist Craig Roberts, author of Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at
Dealey Plaza, now provides us with the results of his ten-year investigation
regarding the true stories behind such secrets as:

Devil Unit 731 and Japanese WWII germ weapons testing on U.S. and Allied POWs--
resulting in hundreds of deaths; all covered up by U.S. authorities.

Operation Paperclip and the smuggling of war criminals - including mass murderers
--into the U.S. by the military.

CIA and military mind control experiments on unsuspecting citizens -
including children...

 Secret drug and bacteriological weapons experiments on the American
population by the CIA and Department of Defense....

Atomic guinea pigs, Agent Orange and the Gulf War Syndrome....

What really happened to over 30,000 POWs and MIAs in World War II, Korea and
Vietnam--and why Russia knows....

Where did the CIA come from - and who really controls it?

International assassinations, drug smuggling and money laundering, all
orchestrated by officials of the U.S. government....

Terrorism in the Air: What the media did not tell you about the shootdown of
KAL-007; the bombing of Pan Am 103, the Arrow crash in Gander; the
shootdown of TWA 800...

The true stories of the bombing of the World Trade Center; the Oklahoma City
bombing; the derailment of Amtrak's Sunset Limited; and what could happen net
to the American people on a nationwide scale...."

America: When are you going to stop excusing the crimes committed by
politicians in this country just because they belong to "your party?" This book
is fully documented. Think you will never be one of the unlucky ones to be
in the wrong time and place? Think again. Get this book and read it. I could hardly put it
down and much of it I already knew. However, Roberts' knows more because he's
been in the position to have access to material denied you and me.

There are only about 1,000 left in print, after that you'll have to try rare
book sellers. The Medusa File can be ordered by calling 1-812-477-7887, ask for Shirley.

Speaking of videos, I have the video that tracked Alaska Air Flight 261 that crashed
January 31, 2000. It cost me $104 bucks through a Freedom of Information Act
request via the U.S. Navy. The Navy took the original radar tracking from the
first may-day from the pilot and put it on video; this is what I have.
I am currently working my story on the Alaska crash for Media Bypass Magazine.
I'm going to give them this video and we're hoping it can be put up on their
web site for viewing. The minute this plane went down, we had all the usual
conspiracy jockeys ejected out of their cubby holes with shouts of "It was a missile!"

Really? Look for my story in the August Media Bypass (if it's accepted) and we'll
see about that. I have all the charts, all the training logs, all the ordinance
accounting sheets and a ton of other stuff that took more than a year to acquire
under the FOIA. I went to Pt. Mugu and onto that secure facility. There was a crime
alright. Whose the next unlucky one flying on a commercial airliner?

"The Republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it...
This will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

Elmer Davis, (1800-1858), American writer, commentator

Because Craig Roberts book covers a great deal of atrocities conducted and covered
up by military brass against their own, I feel compelled to re-print a piece
from one of my old newsletters back in December, 1996:

"The Sunday following the gassing and murder at Waco, on top of the unnecessary
deaths of four law enforcement officers, the Denver [Com]Post used one full newspaper
page in the editorial section to allow people to comment on the "burning of the
cult" in Waco. There were 28 letters. Twenty-seven people said the FBI did the right
thing. I almost threw up.

"It is so repugnant to me that so many Americans saw nothing wrong with what went
on at Waco. This is a good indication at just how far the cloning of the American
mind has succeeded. I watched all the Waco and Ruby Ridge hearings on C-SPAN.
Never have I seen such lying and covering of worthless bureaucratic behinds.
Did Waco become a rallying cry in America by people like myself who watched Waco burn
to the ground on television and sat horrified, unable to do anything to stop such
blatant murder? You bet it did. After OKC, I realized that America had taken
one more giant step towards a real difference of opinion from We the People a
nd the federal monster.

"While I've never been a real fan of J. Edgar Hoover, he did make one statement
which I feel perfectly sums up where we're heading: "When any person is
intentionally deprived of his constitutional rights, those responsible have
committed no ordinary offense. A crime of this nature, if subtly encouraged by
failure to condemn and punish, certainly leads down the road to totalitarianism."
(1952)

"At Ruby Ridge and Waco, there was no condemnation. The murderers were
promoted and cheered. Janet the Butcher Reno has been hailed as a great Attorney
General. The screaming lies about the OKC bombing by both the media and the
government are so reprehensible they defy imagination. And the powers that be
still expect We the People to sit back and say, okay, no problem. Not in
my life time! I could not live with the shame of being one of the sheep."

The following quote is from I want to quote a dedication contained on the
NWO chart distributed by F.R.E.E. (Fund to Restore an Educated Electorate),
available by writing to P.0. Box 33339, Kerrville, TX 78029 [$2.00 donation]:

An Open Letter to the Officers of the United States Military Forces:

In the course of recent history, there have occurred numerous events which give
rise to our urgent concern as to where your immediate loyalty lies. Is it
with the People of the several united States of America, or is it to the
Commander in Chief and his cohort of advisors and controllers determined
to bring us into a world social, economic and political order governed by
the United Nations organization?

In February, 1992, President George Bush told the UN General Assembly, "It is
those Sacred Principles enshrined in the UN charter to which we henceforth
pledge our allegiance." This statement conflicts with the Founding Principles of this
nation and arouses concern in freemen everywhere. Our concern is exacerbated
by such as events as these:

(1 ) Numerous Executive Orders signed by recent presidents which negate the
authority of the people through their elected representatives to declare war, to
ratify international treaties and to limit, by appropriations, military activity
in peacetime;

(2) A continuum of undeclared wars whose purpose and result remain clouded at
best is treasonous at worst;

(3) A growing propensity for placement of various U.S. military units under
foreign commanders;

(4) An apparent change in policy and purpose of the U.S. military for the protection
of the people of these several united States of America and their property to
the furtherance of some vague and unspoken political, social and economic agenda;

(5) The obvious unnecessary sacrifice of the lives and limbs of our fathers,
sons, daughters and husbands in the implementation of that agenda;

(6) Numerous recent violent actions by agents and agencies of the federal
government against the people of the several States, and

(7) The apparent determination of a significant influence within the Congress
and the present administration to disarm law-abiding Citizens of these several
States and to deny us our ultimate protection against a potentially tyrannical
government.

History is replete with examples of the people's worst enemy being their own
government taken over by power hungry despots. We have no reason to believe that
human nature has changed, that, given the opportunity, evil men will impose
their will upon the populace. The form of government established by this Nation's
founders is one of Law based upon absolute Principles, not upon the whim of
individuals, nor even of the majority of the people. They wrote a Constitution
expressly limiting the authority of the federal government and denying to elected
leadership unilateral and unquestioned authority.

You are reminded that your oath upon commissioning as an officer of this nation
is the support and defense of that Constitution and through it, the people of
these several states. It is not to obey a Commander in Chief, nor even less to obey
the orders of some presumed foreign authority. You are further reminded that it is
well established in international law that following the orders of a superior
authority is no defense in your personal responsibility for any unlawful acts by
military leaders.

lt is with these points in mind that we demand that you make a personal decision
and public commitment that, if and when you are ordered to take any action against
the people of these several States or the Constitution established by them, that
you stand with the people and their Constitution, that you protect them from
intrusion upon their rights, their persons, and their property and that you defend
them against all actions, either violent or non-violent, perpetrated by those,
domestic or foreign, whose object is the destruction of the Constitution. We
call upon you to renounce any action in violation of the people or their Constitution,
and to bring to bear all the forces under your command to the protection and defense
of these high purposes. In the name of the Almighty Creator God, we will accept
nothing less." End

Quotes from the man known as the "Father of Our Country," George Washington, a very
politically incorrect kinda guy:

"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove
religion from politics."
--George Washington

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference --
they deserve a place of honor with all that is good."
--George Washington

"Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is a force, like fire: a dangerous
servant and a terrible master".
--George Washington

"A free people ought...to be armed..."
--George Washington, speech of January 7, 1790
in the Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790.

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When Morris Kuper testified at the trial of Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh's
co-conspirator in the Oklahoma City bombing, he said that at 8:02 a.m. he had
seen a man closely resembling McVeigh and a swarthy, muscular man walking to
a parking lot a block from the Murrah Building. That was an hour before the
Murrah Building was blown up, killing 168 people.

Kuper, a computer expert with the Kerr-McGee Corporation, said he looked at
his watch because he was late for work. He said he saw the two men enter the
parking lot and get into an old, light-colored car like the one McVeigh was
driving when he was arrested. He called the FBI two days later, telling them
to get surveillance tapes from the public library building and the
Southwestern Bell building because they might show something interesting that
he had seen in the parking lot. They took his name and number, but did not
interview him about what he had seen until four months later.

There were many other witnesses who had seen McVeigh with a man fitting
Kuper's description before and after the bombing. The FBI had circulated a
sketch of him, calling him John Doe No. 2. They later retracted this
identification because the first of the many witnesses who saw this man had
been persuaded that he was mistaken. The FBI has yet to say whether any of
the 23 tapes that they took from surveillance cameras on the Murrah Building
and buildings nearby showed McVeigh with such a man.

An important lawsuit, "David Hoffman vs. the Department of Justice," is now
before the federal court for the Western District of Oklahoma. It is a
Freedom of Information suit seeking release of the surveillance tapes. The
Freedom of Information Act was passed to promote honesty and facilitate the
exposure of cover-ups of wrongdoing by government officials, objectives
embraced by the Bush administration. Since Attorney General John Ashcroft
appears to have bought the FBI claim that none of the material withheld by
the FBI has any significant bearing on the McVeigh and Nichols verdicts, why
is his department opposing release of the tapes?

It has even imposed a gag order to keep those familiar with the sequestered
material from discussing what it reveals. On May 29, "60 Minutes II" aired a
segment featuring four former FBI agents, three who had been forced out of
the bureau and one who had retired. One, Rick Ojeda, had won a commendation
from Louis Freeh for his work on the Oklahoma bombing case. Ojeda said that
he had checked to see if information that he had developed had been mentioned
in the trials. He asked other agents to find out if interview reports that he
had written had been turned over to the attorneys. They couldn't find them.

Ojeda wrote to Senator Charles Grassley, a critic of the FBI, saying he was
aware of exculpatory information in the Oklahoma bombing case that had been
ignored. Asked by Dan Rather to describe some of that information, Ojeda said
a gag order prevented him from doing so. He could only say, "I thought they
were leads that should have been followed up on." There was no one on the
program who was free to explain what was being concealed.

Those familiar with the evidence believe that some surveillance tapes and
many of the documents show that the John Doe that Morris Kuper saw with
McVeigh was a co-conspirator and probably a link to Middle Eastern terrorists
backing the plot. A former agent familiar with the case says John Doe was
dropped as a target because the FBI wanted a quick solution. A Middle Eastern
connection would have complicated the case.

Dan Vogel, the retired agent on the program, said that the FBI has a cultural
problem, and if it doesn't address it, it will destroy itself. That problem
is the tendency to control and manipulate the evidence to obtain a desired
result. Danny Defenbaugh, who ran the bombing investigation and now runs the
Dallas field office, where all those missing Oklahoma documents were sent,
has been described as exemplifying the culture.

A few days before the cover-up was exposed, Defenbaugh said on TV that
whenever you hear criticism of the FBI, "you never hear about the Oklahoma
City bombing case." Having sat on the documents for months, and with
McVeigh's execution imminent, he had no reason to anticipate being ordered to
turn them over.

Somewhere in the FBI family, there must be a hero who threatened to expose
the obstruction of justice, implicating Louis Freeh and forcing him to order
Danny Defenbaugh to surrender his hoard.
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Subject: 30 Oklahoma City Bombing Questions That Demand an Answer NOW!


Despite Timothy McVeigh's guilty verdict, numerous unanswered questions
about the murderous Oklahoma City bombing remain.  Indeed, there are so
many unanswered questions, it is amazing that the prosecution was able to
secure a conviction at all.

So pull up a front-row seat for the McVeigh lynching, folks, and
contemplate a few of the contradictions in the official account of the OKC
bombing before it all gets flushed down the memory hole.  If this list
doesn't make you paranoid, you must be one of them!

[To read the startling evidence which the jury was barred from hearing, be
sure to check out Timothy McVeigh's Writ of
Mandamus,  http://www.thecommonman.com/mandamus.htm

1.
If the bombing of the Alfred E.  Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City
was a terrorist reprisal for the Federal massacre of the Branch Davidians
at Waco, why were no BATF or FBI agents injured?  Why was EVERY
BADGE-CARRYING FEDERAL AGENT absent from work at nine o'clock on a weekday
morning, their offices staffed only with civilian clerical workers?

2.
When the word first got out that no Federal agents had been present in the
building, the BATF produced its Resident Agent Alex McCauley who told a
long story about his own heroism and that of a fellow ATF man who allegedly
fell three floors in an elevator, walked away from it, and then helped
rescue others trapped by the bomb.  This was quickly exposed as a
fabrication in an angry interview by building maintenance supervisor Duane
James, who described McCauley's story as "pure fantasy".  James examined
the elevator in question and also the central control panel and pointed out
a number of technical and logical reasons why the miraculous elevator
incident simply couldn't have happened in the way claimed.  The McCauley
account was quietly retracted and flushed down the memory hole by the ATF,
with the help of the media.  They now admit that McCauley was nowhere near
the building when the bomb went off, although they refuse to discuss his
exact whereabouts or the whereabouts of any other ATF agent at the time of
the explosion.

Will BATF Agent Alex McCauley be disciplined for telling a self-serving lie
which falsely made himself out to be a hero?  If that was not the purpose,
why did he make this palpably false public statement?

3.
Why was U.S.  Judge Wayne Alley, whose office was located in the Federal
building, warned several weeks in advance in a Justice Department memo to
be prepared for an unnamed "terrorist act" directed against the Federal
building?

4.
Judge Alley made the above admission to the Portland Oregonian immediately
after the bombing.  He has since refused to repeat it or allow himself to
be interviewed again.  Why?

5.
Why did Ken Stern fax warnings to Federal judges and officials,
legislators, and prosecutors warning of a possible attack on a government
building of installation on the second anniversary of Waco on April 10th,
1995, nine days before the OKC bombing?

6.
"Norma," a witness who worked in an office building just down the street
from the Federal building, told reporter Sherry Koonce what she saw prior
to the explosion: "The day was fine, everything was normal when I arrived
for work at about 7:45 a.m.  There was some talk about the bomb squad among
the employees at our office.  We wondered what it was doing in our parking
lot.  Around nine I heard and felt a huge explosion.  Then someone said it
had to be a bomb, and we all knew.  I remembered the bomb squad in our
parking lot and knew what had happened."

"Norma" has since quit her job, gone into hiding and refused to speak again
to any reporters or investigators.  So have a number of other people who
saw the heavily armed and equipped bomb squad in the area up to three hours
before the blast.  Why?

7.
Why did all mention of the facts outlined in questions 1 thru 6 disappeared
from the news media after the first week of coverage of the bombing?  Why
has the media consistently suppressed and refused to report any information
or evidence which indicates that, at the very least and regardless of who
was responsible, there was Federal foreknowledge that the bombing would
take place?

8.
By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or else there
is no compelling reason to commit a crime.  The specific purpose of
terrorism is to gain a political end through the credible threat to commit
future acts of violence.  No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma City
bombing.  Militia and right-wing groups, the alleged masterminds and
presumed beneficiaries, have been particularly vehement in denouncing the
explosion and in many cases have cooperated directly with Federal agencies
to absolve themselves of any involvement.  The only statement of alleged
political motive comes from the very government which was attacked.  Why is
this?

9.
Did the Alfred Murrah building warehouse documents relating to the attack
on the Branch Davidians at Waco?  If so, what happened to those
documents?  Were they destroyed?  If so, were any copies kept
elsewhere?  If not, why not?

10.
Will the missing papers, if any, affect former Attorney General Ramsey
Clark's lawsuit against the ATF and FBI on behalf of the Branch Davidian
survivors?

11.
Why did the Director of the University of Oklahoma's Geological Survey,
Dr.  Charles Mankin, tell the media that according to two different
seismographic records there were TWO blasts, the second approximately eight
seconds after the first?

12.
The news media initially reported that there were two explosions, based on
eyewitness testimony.  Why did this version of events disappear from print
and the air waves within twenty-four hours?

13.
According to the prosecution, McVeigh used an ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate and
Fuel Oil) bomb to destroy the Alfred P.  Murrah federal building.
McGyver makes it look real easy on TV.  But according to Department of the
Army and Air Force Technical Manual No.  9-1910, entitled Military
Explosives, ANFO requires a greater than 99% purity of ammonium nitrate, as
well as a specific dryness, before it can be mixed with diesel fuel to
create an explosive substance.  The manual further spells out that even
under ideal conditions (not often reached even by experts) 4,800 pounds of
ANFO explosive would create a much smaller crater than the one left in
front of the Murrah building, and its shock wave could not possibly wield
the force necessary to compromise the building's concrete support structure.
The FBI claims that the ANFO charge was made from 50 bags of
fertilizer.  Ammonium nitrate fertilizers comes in much weaker
concentrations than the 99%-plus required for explosives.  Creating
concentrated amounts of ammonium nitrate is quite complex, and would
require many bags of fertilizer.  In short, according to the government's
own textbook, the Oklahoma City bombing COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE WAY
THE FBI SAYS IT HAPPENED.  IT IS A PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL, AND THERMODYNAMIC
IMPOSSIBILITY.  Why is the FBI lying?

14.
Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton K.  Partin, former commander of
the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, a 25-year expert in the
design and development of bombs, urged Senators and Congressmen to delay
the destruction of the Murrah building site.  Partin stated in a news
release, "When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical
damage to the Federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that
the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without
supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases
inside the building, a standard demolition technique." Partin further
explained that "reinforced concrete targets in large buildings are hard
targets to blast.  I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent
building damage through simply a truck bomb effort."
General Partin's request to have the bomb site preserved in order to
examine the possibility of a second explosion was ignored by the
government.  Why?

15.
General Partin's press release, quoted above, was reprinted in the John
Birch Society magazine New American.  Based on this the news media launched
an egregious and bogus smear campaign against General Benton K.  Partin,
claiming falsely that he was a member of the John Birch Society and
therefore a "right-wing extremist".  [General Partin's report has been
widely circulated and reproduced, including an electronic version here on
ParaScope.] General Partin has been forced repeatedly to threaten lawsuits
in order to obtain grudging and deliberately downplayed retractions and
corrections of this allegation.  His alleged JBS membership still appears
in print and broadcast media today as fact, even though the media are by
now perfectly well aware that the allegation is false.  Why are the news
media telling a deliberate lie in order to discredit a highly respected
expert who questions the official government version of Oklahoma City?

16.
There have been repeated studies done by a variety of accredited explosives
experts and professional demolition contractors, such as former FBI agent
Ted Gunderson.  All of these have stated their professional opinion that
the destruction of the Murrah building could only have been accomplished
with top-grade military explosives, detonators, and careful placement of
multiple charges.
Why have the media ignored these expert opinions?  Why, indeed, have the
media engaged in a concerted campaign to abuse, vilify, discredit and
marginalize as a "crank" or a "right-wing extremist"
any explosives expert or engineer who questions the official FBI version of
the bomb's construction and explosive power?

17.
There is not a single piece of concrete evidence to connect either Timothy
McVeigh or Terry Nichols to any militia or right-wing group.
Why has the news media refused to acknowledge this fact and continued to
spread the patently false assertion that McVeigh was a member of a militia
group?

18.
Terry Nichols has been married twice, once to a Mexican woman and once to a
Filipina.  Obviously, a man who marries women of color not once but twice
and has children with them can hardly be called a racist.
Why has this fact, which clearly precludes any racist or neo-Nazi
involvement in the bombing of the kind implied by the media, not been given
any significant exposure at all?  And why has the media ignored connections
between the Oklahoma City bombing and the very real, very racist Elohim
City compound in Arkansas, not to mention Andreas Strassmeir, grandson of
one of the founders of the Nazi party in Germany?

19.
Having allegedly just committed a coldly calculated, carefully and
meticulously planned mass murder, why did Timothy McVeigh then suddenly
turn into a Clouseau-like klutz and do everything but send up a flare to
draw attention to himself?  Why did he go speeding out of the state at
almost 100 mph in a yellow car with no license plate, virtually
guaranteeing that he would be stopped?

20.
Timothy McVeigh is a highly trained combat NCO who won a Bronze Star for
courage under fire in the Gulf.  Having been stopped by a state trooper,
being armed with a pistol, and knowing that he now faced either execution
or imprisonment for the rest of his natural life, why did McVeigh make no
move at all to defend himself or escape, instead surrendering like a little
lamb?

21.
FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's truck rental agency by
finding a vehicle identification number (VIN) on the truck's rear
axle.  This axle was found either in the bomb crater, according to the
mayor of Oklahoma City's initial press statement, or three blocks away
according to the later FBI version.  Which statement is true?

22.
There is another problem to the Ryder truck tale.  No rear axle on any
vehicle manufactured in America is imprinted with a VIN, even after recent
legislation forcing manufacturers to place multiple VINS on the engine,
firewall, and frame to discourage chop shops.  When queried, a spokesman
for Ryder told reporters than it does not imprint additional VINS on its
trucks.  The only conceivable number available on a rear axle is a part
number, but a part number couldn't lead to the identification of a specific
vehicle.  We have here another case where the FBI version of events simply
COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED in the way the Bureau claims it happened.  Where
did the VIN story come from?  Why has it been created and circulated by the
media?

23.
Did McVeigh use fake I.D.  or his real I.D.  to rent the truck?
The FBI has relayed both stories as being true.

24.
The FBI detained and interrogated Timothy McVeigh's young sister Jennifer
and Terry Nichols' twelve year-old son.  They announced in the media that
both of them were suspects and that Jennifer McVeigh was facing indictment
and the death penalty.  These charges later vanished, and both young people
were released.  While undergoing harsh FBI interrogation, Jennifer McVeigh
was exposed to projections of shocking, graphic images of bombing
victims.  What is the story here?

25.
Who is John Doe Number Two?  Does he exist at all?  The FBI first conducted
a nationwide manhunt for JD-2 over a period of several weeks.  Then they
claimed that a U.S.  Army soldier on leave, whose published photographs
bear no resemblance whatsoever to the photofits, was JD-2.  Then they
claimed for some months that JD-2 does not exist, and that all the
witnesses who saw him were mistaken.  Now they are hedging again and say
they have an "open mind" about whether John Doe Number Two exists.  What's
the deal?

26.
In January of 1996, National Public Radio broadcast a half-hour special
containing interviews with half a dozen witnesses who personally saw John
Doe Number Two in the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh on the morning of
the bombing.  These witnesses all had one thing in common; other than a
cursory preliminary interview by the FBI they had up until that time been
approached by neither the prosecution nor the defense to appear as
witnesses at the trial.  Why not?  Will any witnesses who saw John Doe
Number Two be called to testify?

27.
In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel Spiegelman was
arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen diamonds and
antiques.  In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice Department quietly
applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the United States IN CONNECTION
WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING.  This was accompanied by representations at
the highest level demanding that the Netherlands courts hear the case in
camera and that the proceedings be kept completely secret.

Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge refused
to impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it, and Janet Reno
allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon the entire bizarre
episode vanished from public view.  No more media blackout in the OKC case
has been more pervasive than the blackout imposed over the name of Daniel
Spiegelman; it is as if he has stepped off the face of the planet.

Who is Daniel Spiegelman?  What connection does he have with Oklahoma
City?  Is he John Doe Number Two?  Does he know who John Doe Number Two is?

28.
FBI informant and star witness Michael Fortier, who admits to trading his
testimony for lenient sentencing on gun charges himself, claims that he and
Timothy McVeigh scouted out the Murrah building several weeks in advance
looking for the BATF offices therein.  If that is true, why did Timothy
McVeigh stop the Ryder truck at a gas station on the morning of the bombing
and ask directions to the building?
And why did he park the truck on the side of the building the farthest away
from the BATF offices, when there was an available parking lot which would
have placed the truck bomb almost directly under the seventh-floor windows
of the BATF?

29.
Why was the reaction of the Clinton administration, blaming right-wing
radio talk shows for the incident and demanding the most draconian police
state legislation ever proposed in the United States, so swift and
obviously organized?  The air of orchestration about the entire government
response did not escape notice even at the time, and was commented on by a
number of observers across the political spectrum.

A blizzard of OKC-inspired "domestic terrorism" bills were rushed into
Congress in a matter of days, some of them pre-written and already printed
up BEFORE THE BOMBING.  These proposed laws cover everything from banning
virtually all privately owned firearms to unlimited and court-admissible
Federal wiretaps to censorship of the Internet to the suspension of habeas
corpus in "terrorism" cases to the grotesque destruction of the First
Amendment advocated in Charles Schumer's bill H.R.  2580, which imposes a
five-year prison sentence for publicly engaging in "unseemly speculation"
and publishing or transmitting by wire or electronic means "baseless
conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the United
States".  Who decides what is a "baseless conspiracy theory'?  Why, the
very same government, of course.

How was a normally cumbersome, inefficient, and glacially slow legislative
branch able to move so quickly, so comprehensively, and so efficiently in
introducing these laws which will strip Americans of what remaining
freedoms they have?

30.
Why did it take so unconscionably long for the trial of Timothy McVeigh and
Terry Nichols to begin?
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The bombing of the Murrah Building was over six years ago. Memories fade about things so I thought I'd resurrect one of
    the strangest aspects of this bombing you're not going to believe - but it's true. Try this one on for size:

    Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, wrote a manuscript in 1991, roughly four years before the OKC
    bombing. Gov. Frank Keating is a former FBI hot shot. His brother, Martin could not get this work published until after the
    bombing. This manuscript, now a published book, is titled The Final Jihad. In this book, Keating lays out a story of
    terrorists, based in OKC, who decide to bomb a federal building. Guess what the name of the one of the key "terrorists" in
    the book is? Tom McVey. And for the kicker of this fictional work: The terrorists in The Final Jihad are stopped by an
    Oklahoma highway patrolman for a broken tail light.

    Now, let me see: We have a book in manuscript form written four years before the OKC bombing whose story line involves
    terrorists in Oklahoma City. This part of this fictional work comes true.

    We have a main character in the book by the name of Tom McVey. In real life, the bomber four years later in OKC is
    named Tim McVeigh.

    We have the terrorists in this fictional work stopped by Oklahoma state troopers for a broken tail light. In real life, our
    bomber, Tim McVeigh, is pulled over by an Oklahoma state trooper because of a missing license plate.

    How's that for fiction being stranger than reality? In this book, remember it's written in 1991, our author also predicts the
    TWA downing and the World Trade Center bombing. Was this just a premonition that Mr. Keating had? Who knows, but
    this book sure does sound like a blue print for the bombing.

    What is Mr. Martin Keating's background? In his own words:

    http://www.firstkeating.com/author.htm  

    "Martin Keating is a master storyteller with unique access to government intelligence agencies and clandestine terrorist
    groups. His brother Frank Keating, currently governor of Oklahoma, is a former FBI agent and assistant secretary of the
    Treasury who supervised the Secret Service, U.S. Customs, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Keating's
    uncle, Barney Martin was a career intelligence officer who headed the U.S. Navy's worldwide foreign intelligence collection
    operations and counterintelligence activities.

    Introduced to the intelligence community through generations of family involvement, Martin Keating knows intimate details
    of what the rest of us can only imagine. Armed with firsthand knowledge of explosives and of chemical and biological
    weapons, Keating accurately reveals what the highest government officials have known, feared, and covered up for much
    too long."

    Martin Keating also bragged after the bombing that he had copies of the surveillance film from the Southwest Bell building
    across the street from the Murrah building. The film from the Regency Towers survived completely intact. The government
    claims the Southwest Bell film didn't - my money says they're lying and they're lying to protect their assets and their
    invented story. There wasn't a scintilla of this strange story in any media publications except Media Bypass Magazine. You
    would think the "mainstream media" would have jumped on this like a June-bug just because of who the author of the
    manuscript is: Brother of the Governor of the State of Oklahoma. Nope. Dead silence.

    Has anyone ever put Martin Keating under oath and ask him to produce these video surveillance films? Nope.

    There is talk that Frank Keating - who states emphatically on the live news coverage the morning of the bombing that more
    bombs were found and "have been removed from the building" (a statement he now denies, but is memorialized on film) -
    may be slated to replace Louis Freeh. Oh, good, that makes me feel real warm and fuzzy.

    I just thought I'd bring up this little bit of history that has such a strange resemblance to what happened in OKC. Today Jon
    Dougherty of worldnetdaily.com, wrote a piece titled, To Die or Not To Die:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23037  

    Jon pretty much says what the rest of us are saying: There are so many unanswered questions and McVeigh is evidence.
    Why is our good Christian, John Ashcroft trying his darndest to hurry up with this execution? I have a few more questions:

    McVeigh allegedly gave a false name, using fake ID in the name of "Bob Kling" to rent the Ryder truck, yet he rented a
    hotel room where he parked this big beacon the same day using his own name. How come? We sure have a lot of strange
    things and numerous "Tim McVeigh's" running around.

    How come we have so many Ryder trucks and how come everyone likes yellow Ryder trucks so much? I've linked a few
    things in my past two posts on this, but here's another one:



    This is a photo of Dennis Mahon, grand poo-ba of the Eloim City crowd. Very bad folks, make no mistake about it. Carol
    Howe was apparently involved with this guy. Ms. Howe was an ATF undercover informant later charged and tried by the
    government; she was acquitted. As I said, everyone seems to love yellow Ryder trucks, from the World Trade Center to
    OKC to Eloim City. How come no one ever rents U-Haul or some other brand? How come they're always from Ryder and
    always yellow? Ryder rents white trucks, I've seen them.

    On May 8, 1995, Michael Fortier, who has just been given an 18 month pass off his 12.5 year prison term, told CNN "I do
    not believe Tim blew up any building in Oklahoma. There's nothing for me to look back on and say, 'Yeah, that might have
    been. I should have seen it back then.' There's nothing like that." Two weeks later, he claims that he and McVeigh actually
    visited the OKC federal building and "cased" the place.

    What does Hoppy Heidelberg have to say about this? If you've read my previous posts or kept up with this bombing
    through other sources, you know that Hoppy was the original foreman of the grand jury that eventually indicted McVeigh
    and Nichols. You can read a really good interview with Hoppy at: http://www.devvy.com/9606.html#grand

    Hoppy has this to say in that interview:

    "Q: Let's talk about Michael Fortier, McVeigh's friend. At first when the FBI questioned he said McVeigh would never have
    blown-up the federal building and killed all those people. He said all the FBI had on McVeigh was his arrest for a traffic
    violation and a concealed weapons charge. Then a couple of months later he's saying that he and McVeigh actually went to
    OKC and cased the federal building with an eye to bombing it. What's going on here?

    A: No. You're off base on that.

    Q: You mean on Fortier's confession? He's confessed to being a participant in the bombing.

    A: That's not it.

    Q: I don't understand.

    A: Let me put it this way, if I had been Fortier's attorney, he would have walked. He wouldn't have given a statement and
    he would have walked.

    Q: That's pretty strong.

    A: There's a lot you need to know about Fortier.

    Q: In the Media Bypass article, you said he was just a kid and the FBI put a big scare into him.

    A: Tremendous pressure. They brought 24 hour-a-day pressure on him for several months at great expense. They were on
    him at his job in Kingman, AZ., and because of that he was fired. They were on him at his home at his trailer, too.

    Q: That much?

    A: Do you see?

    Q: Well, I know there was a weapons charge they were threatening Fortier with, and I believe they also said they'd put his
    wife in jail if he didn't cooperate.

    A: It has to do with the sheer amount of pressure over that period of time.

    Q: Wearing him down.

    A: He had no attorney.

    Q: Are you serious?

    A: For that whole period. And he wasn't under arrest either.

    Q: That's -

    A: He was pressured for 24 hours a day and e had no attorney. He's a kid. He's not smart enough to understand what's
    going on.

    Q: Not smart enough -

    A: To realize the FBI had nothing on him. He had no one to advise him.

    Q: The FBI couldn't arrest him?

    A: They didn't want to arrest him.

    Q: Why not?

    A: Because if they did, they'd have to appoint a lawyer for him. It was months before he was arrested.

    Q: I'm digesting this. It's very bizarre.

    A: He got conned.

    Q: But eventually he did give them what they wanted. He confessed to being involved in the crime with McVeigh.

    A: You're missing it.

    Q: Well, if he hasn't made an outright confession -

    A: Let me ask you something. What's the fastest way to get from Kingman, AZ., to Southern Kansas?

    Q: I have no idea. If Fortier and McVeigh were traveling from Kingman to Southern Kansas....

    A: They'd go through OKC.

    Q: Oh. Fortier just told the FBI they had been in OKC on their way to Kansas? That's all? He didn't say they were casing
    the federal building?

    A: You're warmer.

    Q: Well, all right. If Fortier never told the FBI they cased the building...

    A: It's somewhere in between.

    Q: In between? You mean, it's between they were just passing through OKC and they were casing the building?

    A: You're warmer.

    Q: Fortier told the FBI they were in OKC on the way to Kansas and they went by the federal building, and they looked at it.
    Something like that.

    A: Something like that.

    Q: And there was never a real admission about planning to blow up the building.

    A: You need to read Fortier's confession. It was printed in the Daily Oklahoman.

    Q: Fortier, the prosecution's big witness, never confessed. Is that what you're saying? Not even close?

    A: Not even close.

    Q: But the prosecution didn't need him to gain an indictment against McVeigh.

    A: They want Fortier as a witness in the actual trial. Big time. But if his statement is so far south of being a confession, then
    they can't really use him at the trial.

    Q: No they can use him. What he has to say won't make an impression on some jurors, but it could tip the scales for other
    more gullible jurors. The FBI spent all this time pressuring the hell out of Fortier.

    A: That's very important because you see, obviously that was the best they could do. They stayed with him so long because
    they had nothing better. Fortier's involvement in the bombing was so minimal it was a waste of time. If I was the FBI man
    in charge, I would have made one run at Fortier and then forgotten all about him.

    Q: So in other words, he never confessed to casing the building with McVeigh.

    A: The media has completely exaggerated it. Fortier and McVeigh were driving through OKC on the way to Kansas and
    they passed by the federal building. Something like that.

    Q: And the media stretched that.

    A: Something like that.

    Q: And the FBI spent so much time pressuring Fortier to link McVeigh to the bombing because they had nothing better.

    A: They had nothing better.

    Q: But you feel McVeigh is linked to the bombing.

    A: Yes, I do. But the FBI relied on a man, Fortier, who really couldn't provide anything important to them. You need to
    remember that. That's important. There's more to this." *End*

    Why did Terry Nichols turn himself in to police and give detailed statements to the FBI without an attorney present? He
    sees his name out on the television set and goes in to set the record straight. If you were responsible for this heinous crime,
    would you hang around your farm house and then go turn yourself in for questioning? I guess if you're really dumb.
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NEW YORK, May 29, 2001 (CBS) Four FBI agents involved in the Oklahoma City
bombing investigation have told
60 Minutes II that they were not surprised that evidence was not turned
over before trial, causing a delay in the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

One agent says evidence that he personally obtained - evidence that might
have helped McVeigh's case - may have been ignored or not documented by the
FBI.  Rob Nigh, McVeigh's attorney, says the new information will change
the course of his client's case in the near future.

Rick Ojeda received a commendation for his work on the Oklahoma City
bombing case, but was later fired in what he calls an act of retaliation
for bringing discrimination complaints against his bosses.  In March 2000,
Ojeda stated in a letter to Sen.  Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) that he was
aware of cases, including the Oklahoma City bombing, where exculpatory
evidence was ignored and not documented.
He also said that he personally gathered some of that evidence.

"I started thinking and I started going back and checking to see if some of
the information that I had provided had ever been mentioned at trial, and I
talked to a couple of agents that worked the case and asked them about
leads that I had done - whether they were ever brought up," says Ojeda.  "I
even asked them to check to see if some of the [documents] that I had
mentioned had ever been turned over and they couldn't find them and so I
started to wonder if the stuff had been withheld or just lost, which was
common,"
says Ojeda.

Veteran FBI agent Jim Volz was also on duty the day McVeigh destroyed the
Alfred P.  Murrah federal building.
He reviewed the FBI's internal documents on the bombing, including
interview notes, witness statements, sightings and tips.  "It's extremely
surprising to me that these documents all of a sudden show up," says
Volz.  "There's no reason for it unless there is negligence."

Dan Vogel was the FBI's public voice in Oklahoma City during the bombing
investigation.  Vogel says he's concerned that the FBI waited until a week
before McVeigh's execution to reveal the missing documents.  "If you're not
turning them over, you're obstructing justice," says Vogel.

"There was as cultural problem in the FBI that needed to be addressed,
otherwise it is going to destroy itself," says Vogel.  "You see the FBI is
made up of a lot of very fine, dedicated people.  And these people deserve
better, the American public deserve better, and these recent revelations
where we have a man scheduled for execution and all of a sudden we find
documents that haven't been turned over to the defense attorneys or to the
prosecution a week before the execution, that really made up my mind, after
that there was no question in my mind that I needed to come here today and
do whatever I could to - to try to get this changed."

60 Minutes II shared the information provided by the FBI agents with
McVeigh's attorney Rob Nigh.  "That information should, at minimum, change
the course of this case in the near future," says Nigh.  "If those
statements [provided by the FBI agents] are accurate, the verdict has no
integrity and we cannot possibly proceed with an execution until we
know...  These agents have indicated that there is at least a possibility
of misconduct rising to the level of criminal misconduct in Tim McVeigh's
case.  The importance of this information cannot be overstated...  I was
absolutely overwhelmed."



In all, 4,034 pages of materials about the April 1995 bombing of the Alfred
P.  Murrah Federal Building have been found that should have been turned
over to McVeigh's attorneys years ago.  The FBI says computer and
record-keeping blunders caused the problem and that some documents were not
material to the case.

McVeigh's execution was delayed this month until June 11 after Justice
Department officials acknowledged the existence of the documents.

Attorney General John Ashcroft Thursday insisted none of the new evidence
bears on McVeigh's conviction or sentence and said no further delay would
be necessary.

Nathan Chambers, a member of McVeigh's legal team, said Saturday he could
not comment on any of the FBI documents.  He said attorneys had not yet
decided whether to seek a new trial or a stay of execution.

A court order prevents the Justice Department from releasing the evidence
to the public or describing it in detail.  Among the evidence found,
according to Ashcroft, were:

Newspaper, magazine clippings and a swimsuit calendar from a person in
psychiatric care.  "Most of these clippings did not pertain to the
bombing," the attorney general said.
Correspondence from a person offering unspecified information in exchange
for getting a person released from prison, a large cash award and a trip to
Europe.
Letters containing information about "non-physical beings" and "offers by
psychics to contact victims for information on the bombing."
Documents recording services of subpoenas and other routine legal matters.

Ashcroft Thursday said the evidence also contained fingerprint cards and
criminal history reports of "persons who turned out to have no connection
to the case."


            The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Reichstag Fire
            ------------------------------------------------


     Carroll Quigley, the late professor of history at the Foreign
Service School of Georgetown University, was the author of "Tragedy and Hope; A
History of the World in our Time." At Georgetown, Quigley influenced much of
America's future elite including former President Clinton who praised
Quigley in his acceptance speech at the 1992 Democratic National Convention.
Tragedy and Hope, 1311 pages, offers profound insight into the philosophy
and actions of much of the ruling elite of the world. This extraordinary
book explains many of the factors operating behind the significant events of
the first half of the 20th century.

         On pages 437- 438, Quigley discusses the Reichstag fire, February
27, 1933, in which the German Reichstag, or Parliament building, was burned down just a few weeks after Hitler came to power. Quigley describes the fire as the
result of a premeditated plot which led to the suspension of the German
Constitution. There seem to be some rather ominous parallels to this
historical event and the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City, April 19, 1994.

         A cursory look at the Oklahoma bombing raises several unanswered
questions that seem to indicate a much more complex situation than the official "lone nut" theory that Timothy McVeigh, the worst terrorist in US history,  was
solely responsible. Several questions beg to be answered. Why was every
badge-carrying federal agent absent from work on the day of the bombing?
Federal Judge Wayne Alley had an office is in the Federal building, and,
according to his statement to the Portland Oregonian, was warned, several
weeks in advance in a Justice Department memo, to be prepared for a
"terrorist act" against the building.

         Several people reported seeing a heavily armed and equipped bomb
squad in
the area of the Federal building hours before the bombing. Charles Mankin,
director of the University of Oklahoma Geological Survey, reported that,
according to two different seismographic records, there were two blasts,
eight seconds apart, at the federal building. In fact, news reports within
twenty four hours of the bombing reported that there were two explosions.
This version subsequently disappeared from all media accounts.

         According to "Military Explosives," the Army and Air Force
Technical Manual
No. 9 -1910, an ammonium nitrate bomb, the type in McVeigh's Ryder truck,
could not have, by itself, done the type of damage done to the federal
building. This is corroborated by Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton
K. Partin, former commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory
and a 25 year expert on bombs, who stated the following in a news release;
"When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical damage to the
federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of
damage would have been technically impossible without supplementary
demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases inside the
building, a standard demolition technique...reinforced concrete targets in
large buildings are hard targets to blast. I know of no way possible to
reproduce the apparent building damage through simply a truck bomb effort."
Gen. Partin was one of many explosives experts who expressed this opinion.

         Why did McVeigh, a highly trained combat NCO, after bombing the
Murrah
building, speed out of the state at almost 100 mph in a yellow car with no
license plate virtually guaranteeing that he would be stopped? National
Public Radio, Jan. 1996, interviewed 6 witnesses who personally saw "John
Doe II" in the Ryder truck with McVeigh on the morning of the bombing and
yet none of these witnesses were contacted to testify by either the
prosecution or the defense at the McVeigh trial. Why was the Murrah
building, the main piece of evidence that could have unraveled the whole
mystery, destroyed?

         Anyone who publicly criticized the official version of the
bombing, men
such as Gen. Partin, were smeared and denounced with the usual epithet
"right wing extremist." The term "right wing" is never defined. The
implication is that they are either lying as a result of some sort of
political motivation, or that they are crazy. The only apparent motivation
from people such as Gen. Partin and others, is to objectively uncover the
truth whatever it may be. The political motivation appears to exist on the
side of those who seem to be suppressing the truth. What is the purpose of
that motivation?

         In the aftermath of the bombing, the Clinton administration blamed
"right-wing" talk show hosts and militias. These slanders, the same type
used by Hitler in the aftermath of the Reichstag fire where he blamed
communists, have never been proven and were quite self serving. "Domestic
terrorism" legislation was submitted to Congress within days of the bombing,
some of it written and printed before the bombing. This proposed legislation
included the virtual banning of private ownership of firearms, censorship of
the internet, virtually unlimited ability for the government to use
wiretaps, the suspension of habeas corpus rights in "terrorism" cases, and
Sen. Charles Shumer's bill, H.R. 2580 which would impose a five year prison
sentence for publicly engaging in "unseemly speculation" or publishing
"baseless conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the United
States".  The government would grant itself the power to decide what
constituted a "conspiracy theory."

         Quigley, in Tragedy and Hope, points out that "The day following
the
(Reichstag) fire, (Feb. 28, 1933), (President Paul von) Hindenburg signed a
decree suspending all civil liberties and giving the government power to
invade any personal privacy, including the right to search private homes or
confiscate property." Quigley goes on to point out that "Several people who
knew the truth, including a Nationalist Reichstag member, Dr. Oberfohren,
were murdered in March and April to prevent their circulating the true
story". Nazi Germany used the premeditated Reichstag fire to weave it's own
conspiracy theory as a justification for the suspension of the Constitution.
The results of this action are well known.

         Thank God the US is not Nazi Germany. Enough people in this
country still
understand our constitutionally guaranteed individual and property rights to
thwart a Nazi style conspiracy to suspend those rights. A step toward
preserving our freedoms would be a full and honest investigation of the
bombing in Oklahoma City. Such an investigation, with the truth revealed,
whatever it may be, would go a long way toward preventing a Reichstag type
event, with its pre meditated consequences, occurring on American soil. Is
there any doubt that such an event is possible and may have already been
attempted?

Charles A.  Morse is a nationally syndicated talk show host, the author of
"Thunder Out of Boston" and can be heard on the American Freedom Network at:
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The other 20, or perhaps thirty, or perhaps 40 or more people
who should of been lying next to Tim McVeigh on that gurney.
I believe it is well past time these questions be answered.

 
THE OKC BOMBING - FOUR YEARS BEFORE THE EXPLOSION

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The bombing of the Murrah Building was over six years ago.....The
Government's chosen Patsy has recently been executed. So, the chapter
is finished and the (manuscript) closed - correct? Hardly.......
Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, wrote a manuscript in
1991, roughly four years before the OKC bombing. Gov. Frank Keating is a
former FBI hot shot. His brother, Martin could not get this work published
until AFTER the bombing. This manuscript, now a published book, is titled
The Final Jihad. In this book, Keating lays out a story of terrorists,
based in OKC, who decide to bomb a Federal building. And the name of one
of the key "terrorists" in the book is? Tom McVey. Tom who? And for the
gist of this fictional work: The terrorists in The Final Jihad are
stopped by an Oklahoma highway patrolman for a broken tail light. So, this
is just coincidental, right? If so, the Sun no longer "comes up in the
East", and I've this great bridge to sell you, located in the middle
of the Florida Everglades, I believe.

Now, let me see: We have a book in manuscript form written FOUR years
before the OKC bombing whose story line involves terrorists in Oklahoma
City. This part of this fictional work comes true, which if you have
followed Hollywood, or certain works of published "Fiction", such as
this works, you know that "they" frequently release the details of their
agenda if not entire pieces of the mosaic for public consumption. And it
is ALWAYS couched as "fiction". It is not...............
We have a main character in the book by the name of Tom McVey. In real
life, the bomber four years later in OKC is named Tim McVeigh.
We have the terrorists in this fictional work stopped by Oklahoma state
troopers for a broken tail light. In real life, our bomber, Tim McVeigh,
is pulled over by an Oklahoma state trooper because of a missing license
plate.

How's that for fiction being stranger than reality? In this book,
remember, it's written in 1991, our author also predicts the TWA downing
and the World Trade Center bombing. Was this just a premonition that Mr.
Keating had? I hardly think so. It simply proves, yet one more time, that
everyone of these violent events are carefully planned out several years
in advance, then orchestrated. What this book does sound like is blue
print for the bombing.
What is Mr. Martin Keating's background? In his own words:
http://www.firstkeating.com/author.htm

"Martin Keating is a master storyteller with unique access to government
intelligence agencies and clandestine terrorist groups. His brother Frank
Keating, currently governor of Oklahoma, is a former FBI agent and
assistant secretary of the Treasury who supervised the Secret Service, U.S.
Customs, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Keating's
uncle, Barney Martin was a career intelligence officer who headed the U.S.
Navy's worldwide foreign intelligence collection operations and
counterintelligence activities.
Introduced to the intelligence community through generations of family
involvement, Martin Keating knows intimate details of what the rest of us
can only imagine. Armed with firsthand knowledge of explosives and of
chemical and biological weapons, Keating accurately reveals what the
highest government officials have known, feared, and covered up for much
too long."

Martin Keating also bragged after the bombing that he had copies of the
surveillance film from the Southwest Bell building across the street from
the Murrah building. The film from the Regency Towers survived completely
intact. The government claims the Southwest Bell film didn't - my money
says they're lying and they're lying to protect their assets and their
invented story (and their asses). There wasn't a scintilla of this story
in any (mainstream) media publication(s) except Media Bypass Magazine.
You would think the "mainstream media" would have jumped on this like a
June-bug just because of who the author of the manuscript is: Brother of
the Governor of the State of Oklahoma. Nope. Dead silence. Still think
the mainstream press, the media is uncompromised, uncorrupted? Think again.
They haven't done their job, for the most part, for 30 years now. One of
the primary thrusts of the "Agenda" was to gain control of the media, for
after all, he who controls the media controls the power. For the most
part, they've succeeded. For now.

Has anyone ever put Martin Keating under oath and ask him to produce
these video surveillance films? No. Why not? Because the truth will destroy,
or ar least could potentially destroy the likes of George Bush Sr., who
ultimately ordered the bombing, the Clinton's, several Rockefeller's,
the directors of the FBI, ATF, CIA, DOD NSA, NSC, NATO and so on.
There is talk that Frank Keating - who states emphatically on the live
news coverage the morning of the bombing that more bombs were found and "have
been removed from the building" (a statement he now denies, but is
memorialized on film) - may be slated to replace Louis Freeh. Oh, good,
that makes me feel real warm and fuzzy.

I just thought I'd bring up this little bit of history that has such a
strange resemblance to what happened in OKC.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23037
This pretty much says what the rest of us are saying: There are so many
unanswered questions and McVeigh is evidence. Why is our good Christian,
John Ashcroft trying to hurry up with this execution? Is it to expedite
the process of exposing the likes of Bush, Clinton, Freeh and others? Or
simply to further the cover-up in order to finally "resolve" this issue?
McVeigh allegedly gave a false name, using fake ID in the name of "Bob
Kling" to rent the Ryder truck, yet he rented a hotel room where he parked
this big beacon the same day using his own name. How come? We sure have a
lot of strange things and numerous "Tim McVeigh's" running around.
How come we have so many Ryder trucks and how come everyone likes yellow
Ryder trucks so much?

Dennis Mahon, grand poo-ba of the Eloim City crowd, a very bad guy, make
no mistake about it. Carol Howe was apparently involved with this guy. Ms. Howe
was an ATF undercover informant later charged and tried by the government; she was acquitted. As I
said, everyone seems to love yellow Ryder trucks, from the World Trade Center to OKC to Eloim
City. How come no one ever rents U-Haul or some other brand? How come they're always from
Ryder and always yellow? Ryder rents white trucks, I've seen them. The reason is simple - Ryder
Trucks is
a CIA proprietary company. The yellow Ryder truck is a "trigger", an indicator
to Law Enforcement that some illegality is underway, and the truck is
involved. makes it very simple for them.

On May 8, 1995, Michael Fortier, who has just been given an 18 month pass
off his 12.5 year prison term, told CNN "I do not believe Tim blew up any
building in Oklahoma. There's nothing for me to look back on and say,
'Yeah, that might have been. I should have seen it back then.' There's
nothing like that." Two weeks later, he claims that he and McVeigh actually
visited the OKC federal building and "cased" the place.
What does Hoppy Heidelberg have to say about this? If you've read my
previous posts or kept up with this bombing through other sources, you know
that Hoppy was the original foreman of the grand jury that eventually
indicted McVeigh and Nichols. You can read a really good interview with
Hoppy at: http://www.devvy.com/9606.html#grand
Hoppy has this to say in that interview:
"Q: Let's talk about Michael Fortier, McVeigh's friend. At first when the
FBI questioned he said McVeigh would never have blown-up the federal
building and killed all those people. He said all the FBI had on McVeigh
was his arrest for a traffic violation and a concealed weapons
charge. Then a couple of months later he's saying that he and McVeigh
actually went to OKC and cased the federal building with an eye to bombing
it. What's going on here?
A: No. You're off base on that.
Q: You mean on Fortier's confession? He's confessed to being a participant
in the bombing.
A: That's not it.
Q: I don't understand.
A: Let me put it this way, if I had been Fortier's attorney, he would have
walked. He wouldn't have given a statement and he would have walked.
Q: That's pretty strong.
A: There's a lot you need to know about Fortier.
Q: In the Media Bypass article, you said he was just a kid and the FBI put
a big scare into him.
A: Tremendous pressure. They brought 24 hour-a-day pressure on him for
several months at great expense.
They were on him at his job in Kingman, AZ., and because of that he was
fired. They were on him at his home at his trailer, too.
Q: That much?
A: Do you see?
Q: Well, I know there was a weapons charge they were threatening Fortier
with, and I believe they also said they'd put his wife in jail if he didn't
cooperate.
A: It has to do with the sheer amount of pressure over that period of time.
Q: Wearing him down.
A: He had no attorney.
Q: Are you serious?
A: For that whole period. And he wasn't under arrest either.
Q: That's - A: He was pressured for 24 hours a day and e had no
attorney. He's a kid. He's not smart enough to understand what's going on.
Q: Not smart enough - A: To realize the FBI had nothing on him. He had no
one to advise him.
Q: The FBI couldn't arrest him?
A: They didn't want to arrest him.
Q: Why not?
A: Because if they did, they'd have to appoint a lawyer for him. It was
months before he was arrested.
Q: I'm digesting this. It's very bizarre.
A: He got conned.
Q: But eventually he did give them what they wanted. He confessed to being
involved in the crime with McVeigh.
A: You're missing it.
Q: Well, if he hasn't made an outright confession - A: Let me ask you
something. What's the fastest way to get from Kingman, AZ., to Southern
Kansas?
Q: I have no idea. If Fortier and McVeigh were traveling from Kingman to
Southern Kansas....
A: They'd go through OKC.
Q: Oh. Fortier just told the FBI they had been in OKC on their way to
Kansas? That's all? He didn't say they were casing the federal building?
A: You're warmer.
Q: Well, all right. If Fortier never told the FBI they cased the building...
A: It's somewhere in between.
Q: In between? You mean, it's between they were just passing through OKC
and they were casing the building?
A: You're warmer.
Q: Fortier told the FBI they were in OKC on the way to Kansas and they went
by the federal building, and they looked at it. Something like that.
A: Something like that.
Q: And there was never a real admission about planning to blow up the
building.
A: You need to read Fortier's confession. It was printed in the Daily
Oklahoman.
Q: Fortier, the prosecution's big witness, never confessed. Is that what
you're saying? Not even close?
A: Not even close.
Q: But the prosecution didn't need him to gain an indictment against McVeigh.
A: They want Fortier as a witness in the actual trial. Big time. But if
his statement is so far south of being a confession, then they can't really
use him at the trial.
Q: No they can use him. What he has to say won't make an impression on
some jurors, but it could tip the scales for other more gullible
jurors. The FBI spent all this time pressuring the hell out of Fortier.
A: That's very important because you see, obviously that was the best they
could do. They stayed with him so long because they had nothing better.
Fortier's involvement in the bombing was so minimal it was a waste of
time. If I was the FBI man in charge, I would have made one run at Fortier
and then forgotten all about him.
Q: So in other words, he never confessed to casing the building with McVeigh.
A: The media has completely exaggerated it. Fortier and McVeigh were
driving through OKC on the way to Kansas and they passed by the federal
building. Something like that.
Q: And the media stretched that.
A: Something like that.
Q: And the FBI spent so much time pressuring Fortier to link McVeigh to the
bombing because they had nothing better.
A: They had nothing better.
Q: But you feel McVeigh is linked to the bombing.
A: Yes, I do. But the FBI relied on a man, Fortier, who really couldn't
provide anything important to them. You need to remember that. That's
important. There's more to this." *End*

Why did Terry Nichols turn himself in to police and give detailed
statements to the FBI without an attorney present? He sees his name out on
the television set and goes in to set the record straight. If you were
responsible for this heinous crime, would you hang around your farm house
and then go turn yourself in for questioning? I guess if you're really dumb.
You won't believe it, but I've run out of questions for now. It sure would
be nice to get some answers. Stay tuned. I'm sure things are likely to
get even more twisted as the beltway boys sweat big time in the weeks to come.

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The Government Had Prior Knowledge Of The Bombing

-------------------------------------------------

While most condemned killers languish on death row for decades, Timothy
McVeigh set a land speed record for fast execution. Most say that McVeigh's
death brings closure to the Oklahoma City bombing. Just the opposite is
true. The rush to execute Timothy McVeigh only raises additional questions
about what really happened on that fateful day.
For example, after years of comprehensive and exhaustive research, the
Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee headed by former Oklahoma
representative, Charles Key, issued a stinging 500-page report. The report
concludes:
***The Government had prior knowledge of the bombing.
*Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols did not act alone.
*Murrah Building damage was not caused solely by a single truck fertilizer
bomb of any size.***

In spite of this evidence, however, the Bush Justice Department has shown no
interest in pursuing the investigation into the bombing. Key was even denied
an audience with Attorney General, John Ashcroft, to discuss the case. Why?
Could it be because his Father ordered the bombing? Naa......I'm sure that
had no bearing on the situation.
Why do Republicans and Democrats alike want to continue to hide the truth
from the American people? Are they afraid the truth will uncover corrupt
Federal agencies? Are they afraid the truth will unmask terrorist tendencies
of Muslim regimes around the world? Just what are they afraid of? The
TRUTH? Of course they are. Evil always seeks the dark.
And here is another question: why doesn't the press do its job? As far as I
can tell, one London reporter, A. Evans-Pritchard, has done more to
inform people about what really happened at Waco and Oklahoma City than all
of America's mainstream journalists combined! I'm not sure that we can even
call them journalists anymore. Lazy lap dogs licking the boots of their
New World Order masters, following orders, dancing on the end of their
puppeteer strings is a more fitting moniker.

That Timothy McVeigh deserved to be executed is not the question. Anyone who
murders innocent people deserves to die. The question is why would our
government not want to bring all guilty parties to justice? As stated
in several articles I've recently read, there should have been twenty, perhaps
more, other people lying on that gurney beside McVeigh.
If Middle Eastern terrorists were involved, get the facts and bring them to
justice. And they where. If rogue government agents were involved, get the
facts and bring them to justice. And they where. Andrea Strauusmier was
an ATF agent, undercover, in several Aryan groups and worked with
McVeigh to obtain the bombs used in the (bombing), drugs and the cash
to pay off many other individuals (all obtained from a John Doe #3)
also involved in this disaster, and to plant and ultimately explode the
devices used to bring the Murrah building down. Whatever the cost, whatever
the result, let's get the facts and bring the culprits to justice! Why is
that so hard?
Executing Timothy McVeigh amidst so many unanswered questions (not to
mention unlawful tactics by the FBI) closes nothing, except a door of
opportunity to learn the truth. The blood of the innocent people slain in
Oklahoma City that day deserve better from their government.
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MCVEIGH HAD TO ASK DIRECTIONS TO MURRAH BUILDING

I think that Charles Key and his investigative committee, Stephen Jones and Timothy James
McVeigh's various legal teams, know more about it than anyone else - besides the guilty parties still
running free. Charles Key is one very
courageous, decent American that we all owe a debt of gratitude to for his tenacity in staying on top of
exposing the lies and truths about this crime at horrendous personal expense and sacrifice. One thing I
do know: There are too many discrepancies and too many lies that need to be explored and the
so-called "mainstream media" in this country, and I now include the "fair and
balanced" FOX, are complicit in keeping the truth from the American people.
"An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the right and
courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue
without which popular government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press
will produce in time a people as base as itself."
Joseph Pulitzer, American newspaper publisher

The current blarney being spewed by the "mainstream media" and the government is that
"witnesses can't be relied upon for accuracy." Yet, this was exactly the opposite when the feds were
building their case against McVeigh and Nichols. Well, here's a little news flash for you: A very
credible eye-witness says that shortly before the bombing, McVeigh, or his look alike, stopped to ask
directions to the Murrah Building. That's right, he was lost. Huh?
McVeigh, allegedly in his interview with the two Buffalo reporters, gave a detailed description of
his two fuses that were integrated into the big, yellow beacon (Ryder truck) and how he set them to
go off a few minutes apart. This is such crap, such a stupid, outrageous lie that it defies imagination.
Bus what
else would you expect from the Mainstream Media/press? As I have said before, we
have too many McVeigh's running around. If you were going to blow up a building in a certain city,
wouldn't you at least know how to get there? How come you have to stop and ask directions? Set
fuses while your butt is in the truck? Oh, sure. What happens if you miss a light or something and
you're delayed?

How come, and I've said this 100 times already, McVeigh had no problem driving this weapon of
mass destruction up to the front of the building, getting out where everyone could identify him, set the
fuses and then walk away? This is the same guy who a short time before that was asking directions to
the location of the building he was going to bomb? Maybe because whoever drove up in front of the
building looked similar to Tim McVeigh, but wasn't the Timothy James McVeigh, had no fear of being
caught?

The Bombs:
This remains the key to the whole crime and there are differing opinions on this. worldnetdaily.com
has done a wonderful job in bringing forward all this information that was reported years ago. They
are the biggee of today's new media and I am grateful for their coverage. However, last week they ran
excerpts from a book by Evans Ambrose-Pritchard (which I purchased when it first came out) that
highlights the "investigative" reporting of one J.D. Cash.
I would be less than honest if I said anything other than I wouldn't believe a word that comes out
of J.D. Cash's mouth. Why? Since I don't want to get sued, I'll refrain from comment. I'll just let it
stand that I do not believe him. However, please remember, there are a number of people, myself
included, who go way back six years and were intensely looking into this crime. Cash has always
attempted to steer people away from bombs in the building and rather look to explosives and
ordinance inside the building kept by the ATF.
Was there this type of material in the Murrah Building? Yes, and you can read about this on the
piece posted today on worldnetdaily.com with Charles Key:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23076

That piece I reference above is very good and I hope you take time to read it. There is too much
evidence, i.e. events as they unfolded, that prove in my mind beyond a shadow of a doubt, coupled
with expert opinions, that there were additional bombs in the building. Could ordinance in the building
when the first bomb went off have caused damage as J.D. Cash has consistently tried to steer people
to for six years? Sure, but not the damage caused from explosives placed on the columns as many of
us believe. Cash wants you to stay focused on white supremacist groups and Eloim City. He's
certainly entitled to his opinion, but I believe that is a diversion.
A lot of people have put a lot of time into this crime. Michelle Moore, Pat Breilly, Bill Jasper,
honest law enforcement. So much good information has come from their efforts in trying to put
together the pieces to the puzzle. Historical material that depicts the event as it unfolded is critical.
You can listen to a live CNN feed that will make you realize what liars the
government and the "mainstream" media are and continue to be. Also remember this: The audio you
will hear was live, just like the video Cover-Up in Oklahoma City. It isn't speculation, conspiracy or
made-up. These tv stations had reporters right there on the scene, each trying to scoop the other on
what law enforcement was saying, doing and what was found.
http://www.radiofreeomaha.com/

Audio Portion of Feeds to CNN Day Of Oklahoma City Bombing
I used the version below:
Download able Winamp version (you can save to disc and open from location..ect) 862kb
A great deal of this can be seen and heard on the video, Cover Up in Oklahoma City:
http://www.devvy.com/ord.html

A lot of people do not have audio capacity on their computer system, so I have taken the time to
listen and type out this feed for you. Please remember, like the video mentioned above, this is all live
as it's happening. Now, whose lying, Mr. Ashcroft?
Transcript of the live audio broadcast. This broadcast is several TV anchors talking back and forth:
"Another bomb. Move back.
"Oh, my God, another bomb.
"Now confirmed through federal authorities, that a second bomb has been found inside that federal
building in OKC. It was an explosion 9:00 this morning that did that damage you're looking at right
there.
"I took another look down the street at the Murrah Building again. I see another bomb truck going,
so apparently they're going to try to get out that third bomb that's been talked about.
"At the present time the medical teams downtown are unable to get into the wreckage to retrieve
more of the injured because of the presence of other bombs in the area. I've been told by the police

department that just as soon as those
bombs are diffused, they will permit the medical teams to enter. The 1st bomb that was in the federal
building did go off. You can see right there. The 2nd explosive was found and diffused. The 3rd
explosive that was found, and they're working on right now as we speak, I understand . Both the 2nd
and 3rd explosives, if you can imagine this, were larger than the first.
"The Justice Department is reporting that the 2nd explosive has been found in the AP Murrah
Building in downtown OKC.
"The reports I have is that, one device was deactivated. Apparently there is another device and
obviously whatever did the damage to the Murrah Building was a tremendous, very sophisticated
explosive device, so-
"Right now they are saying that this is the work of a sophisticated group. This is a very, uh,
sophisticated, uh, device, and, umm, it has to have been done by an explosive expert. Obviously with
this type of explosion-
"Two other explosive devices were found and were not detonated and they were larger than the
first, but there were more bombs set to go off according to ATF officials.
Uh, what we have here, you can see here we have the Sheriff's bomb squad who are very, very
busy today, they just pulled up and they are continuing to stay in the area and as we have more
information we will bring it to you. Back to you guys.
"We should find out an awful lot when the bombs are taken apart. I think, it was a great stroke of
luck, you're mentioning it's hard to talk about luck on a day like today in OKC, but it was a great
stroke of luck that we have actually have got diffused bombs. It's through the bomb material that we'll
be able to track down who committed this atrocity."
Do you really think they left people injured and dying inside the building just to plant a conspiracy
theory about bombs? Remember some of the photos in my prior posts - one of them was of the area
cleared. They were bracing for more bombs to go off. Do you really think they would go to all this
trouble and leave victims laying and hurting for more than an hour if they didn't see and identify actual bombs? Come
on. Think John Ashcroft isn't now aware of all of this? Come on.

McVeigh and Nichols - a "very sophisticated group?" The dopes at Eloim City? Why the cover-up
of the bombs? I think you can guess and it's a vile, sickening conclusion, but inescapable. Get that
video, Cover-Up in Oklahoma City and show it to everyone you know and get on the phone to John
Ashcroft's office and demand that the execution be stayed until the state court matters involving
McVeigh have run the due process course. Let's get the ATF, the FBI, all experts and witnesses under
oath and then see what materializes.
The Medusa File
Make no mistake - there are lots of conspiracy theories out in America on a whole variety of
subjects and issues. I have a fortune invested in books and videos of all kinds. One of the
advantages I have that most people don't is time. I gave up my career ten years ago because I could
see the clear and present danger to our Republic. I decided we could live without a second paycheck
because it was my duty to do what I can in getting the truth to my fellow countrymen.
When I hear or read something, I do my best to evaluate the material, check it out and then make
recommendations. I don't just take everything I see or hear as gospel and pass it around -especially on
the Internet. While Ambrose
Evans-Pritchard's book is very interesting on the Clinton's, because he relies so heavily on J.D. Cash
regarding the OKC bombing, I wouldn't and cannot recommend it as a source. I do recommend The
Medusa File.

This book by Craig Roberts isn't devoted entirely to the OKC bombing, although Roberts worked
the bombing investigation the third day after the crime was committed. He was deeply involved on a
level J.D. Cash and others have
only fantasized about. I take his word and his very carefully and fully documented presentation,
over J.D. Cash's any day. This might not set well with some folks, but it's my opinion. Let me quote
from page 378 of Roberts' book:
"The end result, whether it was a covert operation to destroy records and inflame the public, or an
attack by Islamic Jihad terrorists, or a combination of both, is that it appears that other, much higher
entities than McVeigh and Nichols are involved.
"The investigation should not stop, or even slow down, with the apprehension of McVeigh and
Nichols as the only suspects. With leads into the Right Wing, Christian, Constitutionals, Militia,
Patriot, NRA, Conservative and other groups - with the exception of WAR and the Eloim
City/Strassmeir connection - not developing anything of substance, it is now time to explore the other
side of the political spectrum." (This book was published in 1997)
Who is this Craig Roberts?
Craig Roberts is a 26-year veteran police officer; a U.S. Marine Vietnam veteran, commercial
helicopter and airline pilot, and author of eight non-fiction books and one novel. He participated in the
investigation of not just the OKC, but other very high profile cases as well.
"We find few historians who have been diligent enough in their search for truth; it is their common
method to take on trust what they help distribute to the public; by which means a falsehood once
received from a famed writer becomes traditional to posterity."
John Dryden
English Poet, 1631-1700

The Medusa File: Crimes and Cover-Ups of the U.S. Government is not a work
to be taken lightly and I say this having read a few million words from documents, historical
publications and books. I will give you a preview of the book from the back cover and every word is
absolutely true. What is well documented in this book will make you sick. There is too much of this
kind of information, carefully crossed checked for it to be nothing more than "conspiracy theories" or
"anti-government wackos" spouting off at the mouth.
We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not lies. Our Republic cannot continue to exist if the truth
isn't exposed and the guilty hung. America simply cannot continue to give their blind loyalty to their
stupid political party over God, flag and country. America cannot and will not survive if her own
people have become as base as this government because the truth is too painful. You can't hide from
the truth forever and it is our duty to step forward.
From the back cover of The Medusa File:
"From World War II until the present, there has been hidden within the highest levels of
government secrets that you are not supposed to discover. During the period of 1940-1996 the power
brokers, working from their positions
of trust, have committed and then covered up the most heinous of crimes known to mankind.
Investigative journalist Craig Roberts, author of Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza, now
provides us with the results of his ten-year investigation regarding the true stories behind such secrets
as:
Devil Unit 731 and Japanese WWII germ weapons testing on U.S. and Allied POWs--resulting in
hundreds of deaths; all covered up by U.S. authorities.
Operation Paperclip and the smuggling of war criminals - including mass murderers --into the U.S.
by the military.
CIA and military mind control experiments on unsuspecting citizens - including children...and the
CIA's Pedophile ring, the largest in the
world (run by a group called 'The Finders', headquartered out of Chandler,
Ariz.)
Secret drug and bacteriological weapons experiments on the American population by the CIA and
Department of Defense....
Atomic guinea pigs, Agent Orange and the Gulf War Syndrome....
What really happened to over 30,000 POWs and MIAs in World War II, Korea and Vietnam--and
why Russia knows....
Where did the CIA come from - and who really controls it?
International assassinations, drug smuggling and money laundering, all orchestrated by officials of
the U.S. government....
Terrorism in the Air: What the media did not tell you about the shootdown of KAL-007; the
bombing of Pan Am 103, the
Arrow crash in Gander; the shootdown of TWA 800...
The true stories of the bombing of the World Trade Center; the Oklahoma City bombing; the
derailment of Amtrak's Sunset Limited; and what could happen net to the American people on a
nationwide scale...."

America: When are you going to stop excusing the crimes committed by politicians in this country
just because they belong to "your party?" This book is fully documented. Think you will never be one
of the unlucky ones to be in the wrong time and place? Think again. Get this book and read it. I could
hardly put it down and much of it I already knew. However, Roberts' knows more because he's been
in the position to have access to material denied you and me.
There are only about 1,000 left in print, after that you'll have to try rare book sellers. The Medusa
File can be ordered by calling 1-812-477-7887, ask for Shirley.
Speaking of videos, I have the video that tracked Alaska Air Flight 261 that crashed January 31,
2000. It cost me $104 bucks through a Freedom of Information Act request via the U.S. Navy. The
Navy took the original radar tracking from the
first may-day from the pilot and put it on video; this is what I have. I am currently working my
story on the Alaska crash for Media Bypass Magazine. I'm going to give them this video and we're
hoping it can be put up on their web site for viewing. The minute this plane went down, we had all the
usual conspiracy jockeys ejected out of their cubby holes with shouts of "It was a missile!"
Really? Look for my story in the August Media Bypass (if it's accepted) and we'll see about that. I
have all the charts, all the training logs, all the ordinance accounting sheets and a ton of other stuff that
took more than a year to acquire under the FOIA. I went to Pt. Mugu and onto that secure facility.
There was a crime all right. Whose the next unlucky one flying on a commercial
airliner?
"The Republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it... This will
remain the land of the free only so long as it is
the home of the brave." Elmer Davis, (1800-1858), American writer, commentator
Because Craig Roberts book covers a great deal of atrocities conducted and covered up by military
brass against their own, I feel compelled to re-print a piece from one of my old newsletters back in
December, 1996:

"The Sunday following the gassing and murder at Waco, on top of the unnecessary deaths of four
law enforcement officers, the Denver [Com]Post used one full newspaper page in the editorial section
to allow people to comment on the "burning of the cult" in Waco. There were 28 letters.
Twenty-seven people said the FBI did the right thing. I almost threw up.
"It is so repugnant to me that so many Americans saw nothing wrong with what went on at Waco.
This is a good indication at just how far the cloning of the American mind has succeeded, how the
NEA has done it's job well, the Dummying down of America. I watched all the Waco and Ruby Ridge hearings on C-SPAN. Never have I seen  such lying and covering of worthless bureaucratic behinds. Did Waco become a rallying cry in
America by people like myself who watched Waco burn to the ground on television and sat horrified,
unable to do anything to stop such blatant murder? You bet it did. After OKC, I realized that America
had taken one more giant step towards a real difference of opinion from We the People and the
Federal Monster.

"While I've never been a real fan of J. Edgar Hoover, he did make one statement which I feel
perfectly sums up where we're heading: "When any person is intentionally deprived of his
constitutional rights, those responsible have committed no ordinary offense. A crime of this nature, if
subtly encouraged by failure to condemn and punish, certainly leads down the road to tolitarianism."
(1952).
"At Ruby Ridge and Waco, there was no condemnation. The murderers were promoted and
cheered. Janet the Butcher Reno has been hailed as a great Attorney General. The screaming lies
about the OKC bombing by both the media and the
government are so reprehensible they defy imagination. And the powers that be still expect We the
People to sit back and say, okay, no problem. Not in my life time! I could not live with the shame of
being one of the sheep."

The following quote is from I want to quote a dedication contained on the NWO chart distributed
by F.R.E.E. (Fund to Restore an Educated Electorate), available by writing to P.0. Box 33339,
Kerrville, TX 78029 [$2.00 donation]:
An Open Letter to the Officers of the United States Military Forces:
In the course of recent history, there have occurred numerous events which give rise to our urgent
concern as to where your immediate loyalty lies. Is it with the People of the several united States of
America, or is it to the Commander in Chief and his cohort of advisors and controllers determined to
bring us into a world social, economic and political order governed by the United
Nations organization?

In February, 1992, President George Bush told the UN General Assembly, "It is those Sacred
Principles enshrined in the UN charter to which we henceforth pledge our allegiance." This statement
conflicts with the Founding Principles of this
nation and arouses concern in freemen everywhere. Our concern is exacerbated by such as events as
these:
(1 ) Numerous Executive Orders signed by recent presidents which negate the authority of the
people through their elected representatives to declare war, to ratify international treaties and to limit,
by appropriations, military activity in peacetime;
(2) A continuum of undeclared wars whose purpose and result remain clouded at best is treasonous
at worst;
(3) A growing propensity for placement of various U.S. military units under foreign commanders;
(4) An apparent change in policy and purpose of the U.S. military for the protection of the people
of these several united States of America and their property to the furtherance of some vague and
unspoken political, social and economic agenda;
(5) The obvious unnecessary sacrifice of the lives and limbs of our fathers, sons, daughters and
husbands in the implementation of that agenda;
(6) Numerous recent violent actions by agents and agencies of the federal government against the
people of the several States, and
(7) The apparent determination of a significant influence within the Congress and the present
administration to disarm law-abiding Citizens of these several States and to deny us our ultimate
protection against a potentially tyrannical
government.
History is replete with examples of the people's worst enemy being their own government taken
over by power hungry despots. We have no reason to believe that human nature has changed, that,
given the opportunity, evil men will impose
their will upon the populace. The form of government established by this Nation's founders is one of
Law based upon absolute Principles, not upon the whim of individuals, nor even of the majority of the
people. They wrote a Constitution
expressly limiting the authority of the federal government and denying to elected leadership unilateral
and unquestioned authority.

You are reminded that your oath upon commissioning as an officer of this nation is the support and
defense of that Constitution and through it, the people of these several states. It is not to obey a
Commander in Chief, nor even less to obey the orders of some presumed foreign authority. You are
further reminded that it is well established in international law that following the orders of a superior
authority is no defense in your personal responsibility for any unlawful acts by military leaders.
lt. is with these points in mind that we demand that you make a personal decision and public
commitment that, if and when you are ordered to take any action against the people of these several
States or the Constitution established by them, that you stand with the people and their Constitution,
that you protect them from intrusion upon their rights, their persons, and their property and that you
defend them against all actions, either violent or non-violent, perpetrated by those, domestic or
foreign, whose object is the destruction of the
Constitution. We call upon you to renounce any action in violation of the
people or their Constitution, and to bring to bear all the forces under your command to the protection
and defense of these high purposes. In the name of the Almighty Creator God, we will accept nothing
less." End
Quotes from the man known as the "Father of Our Country," George Washington, a very politically
incorrect kinda guy:
"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove
religion from politics."
--George Washington
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference --
they deserve a place of honor with all that is good."
--George Washington
"Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is a force, like fire: a dangerous
servant and a terrible master".
--George Washington
"A free people ought...to be armed..."
--George Washington, speech of January
7, 1790
in the Boston Independent Chronicle,
January 14, 1790.
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THE EXECUTION OF A GOVERNMENT PATSY
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AND the latest in a LONG line of Government patsy's, Tim
McVeigh. The Federal Government amassed voluminous amounts of
evidence showing that many other individuals, in addition to
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, were involved in the
implementation of the bombing. Those individuals were named by
the Federal Government in indictments and in both Federal trials,
as "Others Unknown," but were conveniently culled out by Federal
prosecutors. This information was obtained from actual government
documents, still available, the findings of private investigators
hired by OKBIC, and from eyewitnesses. Immediately after the
bombing, reports surfaced of Middle-Easterners in the area of
the Murrah Building just prior to, or after the explosion. A man
was seen wearing an FBI jacket, talking on a pay phone in front
of his business, using a Middle-Eastern dialect. The following
day, one or two other FBI agents where seen using that same phone
and talking in Arabic. It is not known if there is actually a
connection between the bombing and this eavesdropping activity.

However, the Government released thousands of documents to
Timothy McVeigh's defense team which included references to a
spying operation and to an assassination plot by Islamic extremists.
What is definitely known is that "John Doe's" number's I, II and
III are quite real. McVeigh Was at LEAST a quarter mile away when the
explosives where being set (a military/government bomb developed
in the labs at Palo Alto, Calif., by Government scientists), by
Andrea Straussmeier, an undercover ATF agent now living in Dublin,
and two of the "dark, swarthy" individuals, Afagian terrorists,
described by at least 12 witnesses. McVeigh was actually driving
away from the blast area when the building was imploded (yes, that's
correct, imploded. Not exploded.). He was probably 4-5 miles away
at the time of the blast. His rear license plate had been removed
by Straussmeier and a description of him, and the vehicle called
into the Highway patrol and OKC police as a possible bombing
suspect BEFORE the detonation! And of course there are those "little
ole' overlooked facts" of little or no sulfuric content found at
the blast site (meaning it was NOT a fertilizer bomb); the fact that
the building was imploded, not exploded, clearly indicating an
internally planted bomb on key intra-support structures for the building,
causing said support structures to be blown inwards towards each other,
causing the building to basically "fold in" on itself. A fertilizer
bomb causes a rather dramatic outward release of energy, or explosion.

This was not the case in OKC. And how about the fact that the van
involved in this disaster, the Ryder van, was seen 2 days before the
bombing at an U.S. Army camp some 80 miles outside of OKC. It then
showed up in the rubble. I'm SURE, therefore, that the Military could
have had NOTHING to do with this! Or the fact that the then Sheriff of
the county was ordered off site when at 3:00 A.M. he discovered certain
Military and Federal agency personnel REMOVING undetonated explosives
cased in Military OD Green canvas (cases). Or perhaps it was that app.
35 Federal AGents where phoned at home the previous evening and told to
STAY AWAY from the Federal Center Building that day, to not report for
work THERE......and that app.4 AGents where not told this, and died in
the blast. The fact that these 4 agents had information they where taking
to the Grand Jury on the Clinton's and the Bush's illegal actives that
week had nothing to do with it, I'm sure........

If there is actually someone "out there" that believes Tim McVeigh
If there is still anyone "out there" that thinks McVeigh acted alone, well,
the Earth stopped rotating on it's axis, yesterday, didn't it? Wake up people
- though he may deserve the punishment that is about to be meted out, there should be app. 20
others lying beside him with their arms strapped down. They include the likes of Bush Sr., who
ordered the bombing, the Clinton's, Lawrence, David and Nelson Rockefeller's, Kissenger, the
director's of the FBI, CIA, DOD, ATF, NSA - the command staff of NATO.....be a damn full
Gurney, wouldn't it?

McVeigh is another Oswald, another James Earl Ray, another......Government
patsy. And that is ALL..........these events are carefully planned
and orcharstraed by a group known as the Office Of policy Initiative,
and a variety of Federal agencies and the goons that work for them. Their
goal is to create so much violence and chaos that the American people
will CRY OUT for the government to completely "take over", do away with
the Constitution and Bill Of Rights, that is, and to disarm the rest of
those pesky ole' Patriots would stubbornly INSIST on their Freedom and
their rights as guaranteed under those old, brittle old-dated documents!
Damn them anyway.......I mean, who wants to be free, anyway?????? And you
people are so dumb, and so materialistic and self-centered, that you are
letting them do it. Well, you'll soon get what you deserve. Wake up
folks, time is running out. Attached to this document is a zip file
that contains several police radio transcripts on the evening before,
and the day of the blast. The remainder of these transcripts are available
on the Web. It is quite clear from them that the "Fix is in".
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**STOP** THE McVEIGH 'PATSY' EXECUTION! **

 
Regardless what you "know" about Tim McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing,
unless you read D. Kidd's detailed report you do NOT have all the facts.
This is WORTH the time it takes to read and forward. Oklahoma State Rep.
Charles Key risked his all to forward the TRUTH about the CONTROLLED MEDIA
AND U.S. GOVERNMENT LIES. He cared more about his fellow man and his country
than his "seat in the legislature". A rare breed in today's climate. We owe
him our deepest respect and gratitude.
 
DO NOT LET THE DEATHS OF 168 INNOCENT PEOPLE AT OKLAHOMA CITY GO
UNANSWERED. WRITE, CALL AND E-MAIL YOUR ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS, INCLUDING
PRESIDENT
BUSH, ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT AND THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES TO

**STOP**
THE PLANNED EXECUTION OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH IN JUNE.
This article is very good, with lots of links to VERY REVEALING materials at other sites, materials
which many of you have never seen before. This will help
understand what really happened at OKC... and it is NOT what the media moguls
or the FBI have told you. THEY ARE LYING! The TRUTH of what you will read at
Devvy's website link above is something the government does NOT want you to
learn. The government is guilty of obstruction of justice and violating the
basic premise of due process of law. GEORGE BUSH SR., BILL CLINTON, JANET RENO,
LOUIS FREEH, and their 'HENCHMEN' are all guilty of complicity in the SEDITIOUS,
TREASONOUS, MURDER of 168 innocent Americans.

BTW, if any of you think McVeigh's execution was initially stopped just
because of the FBI having 'found' documents that were ho-hum, never turned
over to the defense, THINK again! The FBI and government complicity dictates
that they are 'micro-managing' this entire event. And the media is only
giving you 'sound-bytes'. (The REAL reason behind the halting of the first
scheduled execution is that Bush Sr., the Clinton's, Reno and about 20 other
people will loose their scapegoat. The truth will eventually "get out", and
the real criminals will be named and the consequences that follow will be
inevitable. Thus, keep the patsy, the scapegoat alive! As long as possible!)
The reason for halting McVeigh's 'planned' May execution date was a
lawsuit filed by JANE GRAHAM, a 9th floor survivor of the Oklahoma City
Murrah Building MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS that occurred in the basement of the
building where satchel type charges of possibly fulminated mercury or C-4
plastic explosive were attached to the columns themselves. As you will read
in Jane Grahams sworn affidavit, she was a WITNESS to not only the pouring of
wet concrete into the 24 or 25' craters in the basement of the building -
AFTER the BOMBS went off, but was also a WITNESS to two individuals wearing
GSA employee uniforms - who were NOT GSA employees - and whom she observed in
the basement of the Murrah Federal Building at 8:15 AM - before the
explosions - stringing wire.

Notice I stated 'BOMBS' as in more-than-one. You see, I TOO AM A WITNESS... I
have an original copy of the seismic data that Dr. Charles Mankin at the
University of Oklahoma at Norman, FAXed to me, shortly after the explosions
occurred. The seismic recordings reveal at least TWO bombs, if not more, that
went off within 10-seconds of one another on April 19, 1995. Nord Davis of
Northpoint Teams and the entire Northpoint Team Members were supplied with
copies of this same data... to make sure that the TRUTH could not be buried
or destroyed.

PART 2 of this URGENT ALERT message will reveal that because of certain
individuals who we know were involved, and the fact that the ATF offices were
vacated the night before on Tuesday, April 18th, this bombing was the work of
a COVERT GROUP inside the Federal Government, with the full knowledge of
Clinton and Ms. Reno. We will show that "Suspect #1", Timothy McVeigh, is a
part of that team, employed as a government asset and made the rounds of
patriot organizations. We allege that had he not been stopped by the Oklahoma
State Police on a traffic violation of 'no license plate', he and his
partner, "John Doe #2" would have been, as we say in intelligence circles,
"double cut-outs," that is, killed as was Lee Harvey Oswald, to silence them.
We believe that "John Doe #2" is a man from Mena, Arkansas who goes by the
name(s) of Brown or Boyd. The FBI knows the identity of this man and probably
where he is, although he may have already been terminated with extreme
prejudice to insure McVeigh's cooperation. The Oklahoma Highway Patrolman, we
believe, was not in the "loop". He did his job not knowing that McVeigh was
to get away. McVeigh had a concealed and loaded 9mm handgun.

We will also reveal that the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City, was a deliberate inside job, and by the very same Group of
traitors who planned and executed The Waco Massacre. Their purpose, with the
help of CNN, was/is to formulate public opinion as totalitarian socialist
Hitler did, for the passage of certain UNCONSTITUTIONAL firearms bills, such
as HR-1488, which gives the BATF broad, expanded powers. Even more important
to them was/is the passage of the Biden-Schumer 'anti-terrorist' bill, which
was before Congress at the time of the explosions. In these conspirator's
minds, the passage of these bills, and the disarming of American Citizens who
know, at least in part, what's going on, is well worth the deaths of a mere
250 people. They think this way with the same AMORAL mind-set as they had
when they murdered 80+ men, women and children at Waco. There was barely a
whimper from the American people. They did so with the same reckless abandon
as they had when they murdered 500,000 innocent men, women and children in
northern Iraq in the City of Nineveh raids which were televised on Iraqi
TV... and which Nord Davis witnessed first-hand while in Amman, Jordan in
1991. You did not know of this atrocity? That's because the five white guys
on the stupid-tube never bothered to tell you.

As Nord Davis of Northpoint Teams stated on April 22, 1995: "The Northpoint
Teams fully understand that the intelligence contained in our first Oklahoma
City report is far different than the intensive propaganda that you have
watched on Hanoi Jane Fonda's husband's network: CNN. As Hitler once stated,
'If the LIE is LARGE ENOUGH, everyone will believe it.'"
AMERICA... This is YOUR WAKE-UP CALL! No matter what you see on CNN or from
the other talking-heads, KNOW THIS: Your LIBERTY and JUSTICE are at stake if
they get away with executing Timothy McVeigh. Because you are next......

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THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COVERUP

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The Federal Government amassed voluminous amounts of evidence showing that
many other individuals, in addition to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols,
were involved in the implementation of the bombing. Those individuals were
named by the Federal Government in indictments and in both Federal trials,
as "Others Unknown," but were conveniently culled out by Federal
prosecutors. The information in this chapter was obtained from actual
government documents, the findings of private investigators hired by OKBIC,
and from eyewitnesses. For purposes of this summary, sources are not
quoted herein and some individuals are indicated by initials only.
Immediately after the bombing, reports surfaced of Middle-Easterners in the
area of the Murrah Building just prior to, or after the explosion. [See
Chapter, "The Eyewitnesses"]. Fifteen hours after the bombing, the FBI
deployed Arab linguists throughout the country. Their aim was to interpret
wiretaps and eavesdrop on live conversations. After the bombing, they
remained on duty to monitor wiretaps of radical fundamentalist Islamic
groups in an effort to protect President Clinton when he attended the
Memorial Service in Oklahoma City on 23 April.
A downtown Oklahoma City business owner reported seeing FBI and DEA agents
retrieving documents that were flying out of the Murrah Building
immediately after the bombing. He also saw a man wearing an FBI jacket
talking on a pay phone in front of his business, using a Middle-Eastern
dialect. The following day, he saw one or two other FBI agents using the
phone and talking in Arabic.

It is not known if there is actually a connection between the bombing and
this eavesdropping activity. However, the Government released thousands of
documents to Timothy McVeigh's defense team which included references to a
spying operation and to an assassination plot by Islamic extremists.
Terry Nichols frequently visited the Philippines where he possibly
developed connections with Arabs.

From 1990 to 1995, Nichols visited the Philippines frequently, ostensibly
to visit his mail-order bride, who, at one point, lived in a boarding house
where Muslim students from the Philippine island of Mindanao resided.
The island is home to more than 500 radical Muslim fighters. Even when she
no longer lived there, phone records show that Nichols made more than a
dozen phone calls to the boarding house. Her father reported that he had
seen Nichols in the possession of a book on the topic of building bombs.
While it may seem inconceivable that "Others Unknown" may include Middle
Eastern extremists, white separatists, German, Russian, and Japanese
extremists, it is a fact that very often, cooperation among these groups
occurs. The one common thread among them is their hatred for the United
States Government and for the Jews.

The Stockholm Revisionist Historian Conference, held in Sweden in November
1992 is an example of how these diverse groups come together for a common
cause. The movement disputes many historical facts, such as the existence
of the Holocaust. The Conference was attended by numerous Nazi and
Neo-Nazi figures, members of two Arab extremist groups, Japanese
extremists, and a Russian extremist group.
Nazi-Middle East collaborations date back to at least World War II.
After the war, former Major General Ernest Rhemer fled Germany to settle in
the Middle East where he established intelligence operations for several
Arab emirates. Rhemer is prominent in the revisionist movement.
A Swiss Nazi has masterminded several airplane hijackings by the Palestine
Liberation Organization (PLO).

A former Nazi was convicted in German in July 1994 for trading nuclear and
SCUD rocket detonation technology to Iraq.
A former Nazi scientist assisted in recruiting former Nazi and East German
scientists to work on Libyan and Iraqi chemical weapons projects.
In the 1980's, a Neo-Nazi, financed by a terrorist organization founded by
Yassir Arafat, attacked several U.S. military installations in Germany
with bombs.
There are numerous documented instances where militant Neo-Nazi members are
also members of the PLO or the Popular Front for the Liberation of
Palestine (PFLP).
U.S. involvement in the Gulf War generated great hostility among
Neo-Nazis. For example, the head of the Anti-Zionist Legion in Germany
organized campaigns for Saddam Hussein during the war; this individual has
connections with the attorney for Andrew Strassmeir and numerous other
militant individuals and organizations.

After the Gulf War, Iraqi prisoners were resettled in the U.S., and there
are scores of Middle-Eastern students attending U.S. colleges and
universities. The University of Oklahoma has one of the largest Arab
populations. While many of these Middle-Easterners are law-abiding
citizens and visitors, it is likely that some are "plants" from
government-sanctioned extremist organizations and are prepared to
participate in any terrorist act that their respective countries order.
Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier often traveled
throughout the country to gun shows where they mixed with white extremists,
and they also made contact with various paramilitary groups.
One resident of Elohim City was a long-time personal friend of McVeigh's.
It is possible that there were ties to Russia and the Philippines with
regard to the bombing.

In late May 1994, CG, an FBI informant, met with two Arabs and several
others, one of whom looked like Terry Nichols. He noted that the group
represented a variety of backgrounds: Iran, Iraq, Columbia, Ireland and
Neo-Nazis, and seemed to have unlimited monetary resources and an elaborate
network for smuggling and gathering information on judges and federal
buildings.
From January to April 1995, CG reported the activities of the group to the
FBI, including a meeting at which terrorists presented architectural
drawings of the Murrah Building. CG was assigned to obtain the names and
addresses of federal judges. He went to Oklahoma City to assess security
and check out the fifth floor of the Murrah Building and a few weeks later,
a terrorist informed CG that a federal building would be bombed within the
next few weeks.
Mexico City is home to one of the largest Soviet consulates in the Western
Hemisphere. The Russians are still a viable presence there and continue to
employ intelligence officers.
In 1992, MT overheard a conversation between her father, a former Communist
official in Mexico City who worked for the PLO, a Palestinian, and a
Middle-Easterner in which they discussed a bombing plot to be carried out
in the United States. One of the men stated that "Russian officers told us
we can probably blame 'American Patriots' and all the stupid stuff with the
white supremacists and the neo-Nazis. So we can give two strikes at once."
MT explained that "two strikes" was sanctioned by the Communist Party and
by certain Arab leaders.

MT's father offered to hire a white male to pose as a neo-Nazi to
participate with his Arab comrades. MT reported that the plan involved
bombing a building in mid-America; it had to be an office building and
children had to be involved because "it was a very important part of the
emotional part of the strike."
Audio tapes made of MT's testimony were stress-analyzed and indicated that
she was truthful.
An all-points bulletin (APB) is the initial announcement made on radio
frequencies to law enforcement agencies to identify suspects who need to be
apprehended.
Immediately after the bombing, an APB was broadcast to be on the alert for
a brown Chevrolet pickup truck containing suspects of apparent
Middle-Eastern origin. The source of the APB was a woman who, immediately
after the bombing, observed two men of Middle-Eastern extraction running
from the vicinity of the Murrah Building to a late model Chevrolet pickup
truck. Later the same day, the FBI rescinded the APB with no explanation.
Why did the FBI rescind the APB if they were still wanting information
about John Doe #2 almost a month after the bombing?
Several Mid-Easterners were reported to governmental agencies because of
suspicious actions.

AAA, a Jordanian national, departed Oklahoma City on American Airlines two
hours after the bombing. Airline employees reported his suspicious
behavior to security who notified the Chicago office of the FBI. Upon his
arrival in Chicago, AAA was detained and questioned by the FBI and then
released and allowed to fly to London, since he had missed his connection
to Rome. In London, he was deemed ineligible for re-entry and returned to
the United States where he was again interrogated and released.
His luggage continued on the original flight to Rome where Italian
officials searched it and found multiple car radios; a substantial quantity
of shielded and unshielded wire; a small toolkit and other tools consistent
with use for both explosive devices and also for general electronic repair;
blue jogging pants with floral pattern around the neck; black sweatpants;
video cassette recorder; and a solder. It is interesting to note that the
jogging suit matched the description given by the original APB witness.
Dr. K has amassed millions of dollars in real estate, and the brown pickup
truck described in APBs was seen parked in front of his business.
He traveled frequently to Las Vegas, where sources report that he laundered
funds for the PLO. Dr. K was introduced to a "couple of white guys" in
Las Vegas. Terry Nichols visited his son there on numerous trips and he
and McVeigh also occasionally frequented the city. Is it possible they met
with Dr. K there? Dr. K's ex-wife was killed in the Murrah Building bombing. By her death, Dr. K
stood to regain a considerable amount of property that
he lost in their divorce and which would now go to their daughter, a minor.
HAH, an employee of Dr. K. was identified by an eyewitness as being the
driver of the brown pickup truck that had almost hit her in downtown
Oklahoma City immediately after the bombing. HAH and AAA were good friends.
On the Saturday before the bombing, HAH was seen with McVeigh drinking beer
in a bar in Oklahoma City. HAH denied being in the bar or drinking alcohol
because alcohol is forbidden by Muslim law.. However, a police report
dated 03 June 1995, shows that he was passed out behind the wheel of a
vehicle still in "drive" when officers arrived. He was given a
blood-alcohol showing a .21 blood-alcohol concentration. The incident
occurred only several hundred yards from the bar HAH claims never to have
been in.

A waitress in a bar in downtown Oklahoma City saw McVeigh buying drinks for
a man strongly resembling John Doe #2. When shown photos of HAH, she
positively identified him as McVeighíís "drinking buddy."
A pickup truck was abandoned in the parking lot of an apartment complex
which was identified by an FBI agent as being the brown pickup truck sought
in the APB issued on the day of the bombing.
Mr. and Mrs. R lived in an apartment complex where they reported seeing a
yellow pickup truck in the parking lot. It was later determined by the FBI
that it had originally been brown but repainted yellow.
Mrs. R told the FBI that she had seen the driver and he appeared to be
"Middle Eastern or whatever." She asked a friend, an art teacher, to sketch
a likeness of the man based on her description. The sketch was not of the
same individual appearing in the John Doe #2 sketch. Mr. and Mrs. R
contacted the FBI to inform them of the sketch but the FBI did not return
their call. When the FBI did not contact them, Mr. and Mrs. R contacted
the CBS affiliate in Oklahoma City and their story was aired.
The broadcaster was subsequently fired, allegedly for using an audiotape
from NBC regarding the APB.

From 19 April until 25 April 1995, Mr. and Mrs. R., separately and
together, saw the truck numerous times. On 26 July 1995, Mrs. R saw a man
driving a car who was the same man she had seen driving the pickup. She
wrote down the license plate and had it checked. The car that the tag was
on was not the car it was registered to. On the evening of the 25th, it
was impounded by the FBI.
In the Writ of Mandamus for Timothy McVeigh's trial, his attorney, Stephen
Jones, stated that FBI sources in Washington DC indicated that three males
of Middle Eastern origin rented a brown Chevrolet pickup truck at the
Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport. Witnesses have reported seeing
three men speed away in a brown pickup truck following the bombing.
Following the bombing, a search was initiated for white supremacist
conspirators. Twenty days after the bombing, two older men were questioned
by the FBI in Carthage, Missouri. Robert Jacks Suspects The two men,
identified as Gary Allen Land and Robert Jacks had lived across the
street from McVeigh in Kingman, Arizona.

McVeigh and Nichols were in the company of a man identifying himself as
Robert "Jacks" when they visited the real estate office of WM in Cassville,
Missouri. Another realtor in the office, JLD, reported that "Jacks" was
the trio's spokesman. The land that WM showed the group on maps was only
half a mile from the Branch Davidian compound, a sister organization of the
group in Waco, Texas. WM saw photos of Land and Jacks on television and
contacted the FBI to report that neither of them were the man who had
accompanied Nichols and McVeigh to his office. WM assisted an FBI sketch
artist in creating a drawing of the man who had been with McVeigh and
Nichols and noted that the man was a young man, rather than an older man,
as Lane and Jacks were described. JLD confirmed WM's description, saying
that the individual might be "a little bit Hawaiian."
Nichols owned property with an airstrip in Cassville which he leased to a
man in Wichita, Kansas. In October 1999, a piece of property across the
lake from Nichols' property was sold by a Robert A. Jacques from Wichita.
BW owns a diner in Nichols' hometown, Herington, Kansas. One morning,
Nichols, McVeigh, and another man in a Ryder truck came in and ordered
coffee. She asked where they were going and the third man answered,
"Oklahoma." Since they immediately left without breakfast, she felt that
the man had said something that he should not have said. When shown a
sketch of a suspect, BW said it was a near resemblance to the third man,
who appeared to her to be Hawaiian.
An Odessa, Texas resident, Robert Jacquez died from injuries sustained in
an industrial accident. Reportedly, he had been friends with a neighbor of
Michael Fortier. The neighbor had lived in Odessa for 18 months following
the bombing and he and Jacquez had shared a post office box.
Reportedly, a third person shared the post office box. Fortier's neighbor
claimed that he never knew Jacquez and does not know the identity of the
third person. The neighbor was also a friend of McVeigh's and McVeigh had
asked him to drive a getaway car but he declined.

Jacquez had been employed as a roustabout in Odessa; he quit in September
1994. From then until Christmas Eve, his whereabouts could not be
corroborated through any public records. That period of time encompasses
the timeframe in which Robert "Jacks" was in the realtor's office in
Cassville, Missouri. When Jacquez returned to Odessa, he told friends that
he had been working as a DEA narcotics informant.
Another Robert Jacks was driving an armored car that made a delivery to the
Murrah Building moments before the bombing.
It is believed that the FBI has not shown their sketch of Robert Jacks to
any of the eyewitnesses in Kansas or Oklahoma City. The FBI chief
investigator of the bombing mandated that all leads regarding Gary Land and
Robert Jacques were to be forwarded directly to him and not be filtered by
subordinates.
SCG, a former research associate in DNA studies at Cedars-Sinai Research
Institute in Los Angeles with a degree in chemistry was arrested on weapons
charges on 13 May 1995 in Oatman, Arizona. The site of the arrest was
located 20 miles from Kingman, the home of Michael Fortier. When his
property was searched, cases of weapons were found, along with stolen
medical supplies. He had a laboratory for the manufacture of
methamphetamine on his property as well.
SGC claimed to have known McVeigh, under his alias, "Tim Tuttle." An
associate of SCG described him as having anti-government and pro-Nazi
sympathies.

A brown pickup truck with a white camper shell had been parked at SCG's
residence. Terry Nichols had parked a similar truck at a storage space in
Las Vegas from November 1994 to 18 January 1995. Sightings of a brown
pickup truck occurred in Oklahoma City before and after the bombing. A
witness saw a brown pickup truck pull over, then pull away, as McVeigh was
stopped and arrested by the Highway Patrol.
There were witnesses who stated that SGC was out of town for two or three
weeks prior to the bombing. However, SGC's roommate, PSH, stated that he
was with him in Oatman, Arizona when the bombing occurred. SGC's employer
reported that he was in Los Angeles at the time of the bombing where he was
visiting his mother, who had had a stroke.
Elohim City is located near the Oklahoma-Arkansas border consisting of 240
acres of largely undeveloped land; 25 to 30 families live there.
Robert Millar is the leader and founder of the white supremacist group,
which advocates polygamy and the overthrow of the U.S. government.
Elohim City supposedly has close ties with other extremist groups such as
The Covenant, Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), a Christian identity
movement. Prior to Millar becoming involved with the CSA, Elohim City did
not have weapons. Once the two organizations merged, however, the CSA
provided Elohim City with weapons training.

The CSA's second-in-command, Terry Noble, stated that in 1983, the CSA
planned to bomb the Murrah Building when their leaders determined it would
be the perfect target since it housed many governmental agencies, had
little security, and would cause a significant impact because it would not
be an expected target. They had planned to use a rocket launcher for the
attack.
Exactly 10 years to the day before the actual bombing, the Government
raided the CSA at its compound in Arkansas. Millar visited the site to
lend moral support, but the compound ultimately surrendered three members,
Jim Ellison, Terry Noble, and Richard Snell.
Snell was later convicted of murdering a pawnbroker, whom he thought was
Jewish, and a black highway patrolman in Arkansas. He was sentenced to
death and later executed on 19 April 1995. Millar urged the government to
delay the execution because of the significance of the date.
Snell stated that the Governor would regret not changing the date and he
warned of a bomb.

The Bridges calling card phone records show that a call was made from a
motel in Kingman, Arizona to Elohim City. Millar initially denied that
such a call was received; however, when confronted with phone records, he
admitted that a call may have been placed to "Andy," a nickname for Andrew
Strassmier. Strassmier admitted that he met McVeigh at a gun show . He
possibly gave a business card to McVeigh with the phone number for Elohim
City on it. The Bridges card shows a call from a motel in Kingman to the
Ryder truck rental in Lake Havasu, Arizona on 05 April 1995. Three minutes later the call was made
to Elohim City. Later that evening, a call was
made to the National Alliance in Mohave Valley, Arizona, followed by six
more calls there in the next two days. The National Alliance is an extremist group led by William
Pierce, the author of The Turner Diaries, the book
characterized by the government as the "blueprint" for the Oklahoma City
bombing.

McVeigh has denied ever being in Elohim City. However, in 1993, he
received a traffic ticket 20 miles from the compound on the only road that
leads there. In 1994, he stayed in a motel one-half hour west of Elohim City.
Elohim City has been a temporary home to six individuals charged in a
series of bank robberies. Allegedly, the funds derived from the robberies
were used to fund activities of the Aryan Revolutionary Army. There has
been some speculation that the robberies helped finance the Oklahoma City
bombing.
Dennis Mahon, a former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and the third
person in authority in the White Aryan Resistance Movement, has also
resided at Elohim City and was a friend of ATF informant, Carol
Howe. Robert Millar became aware that the ATF planned a possible raid of
the compound. Reportedly, members within the compound vowed that Elohim
City would not become another Waco and that they would strike first in a
"Holy War." It became known that the FBI and ATF each had their own
informants placed at Elohim City. Because of this duplication of efforts,
any planned sting operation was canceled.

The bombing in Oklahoma City proved the validity of Howe's information, and
immediately after the explosion, she returned to Elohim City at the behest
of the FBI. Howe's usefulness as an informant was terminated once it was
learned that she would testify for the defense in McVeigh's trial. Her
handler testified later that Howe had warned her of the bombing.
Dennis Mahon, former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and leader with
the White Aryan Resistance (WAR), referred to the Oklahoma City bombing as,
"a fine thing," and has openly proclaimed his hatred for the federal
government.
ATF informant Carol Howe reported Mahon discussing the targeting of federal
installations and that when she was a guest in Mahon's home in Tulsa, that
he received a phone call from Tim Tuttle (McVeigh's alias).
Howe saw McVeigh at Elohim City in the company of Peter Ward and Strassmier
in July 1994. Mahon and Strassmier visited Oklahoma City in November and
December 1994 and again in February 1995. Howe accompanied them on the
December 1994 trip.
Howe thought the sketches of John Doe #1 and John Doe #2 looked like
brothers, Tony and Peter Ward, both residents of Elohim City.
According to Howe, Strassmier was in charge of security and weapons
training there.

Mahon made a tape to be delivered through an intermediary to McVeigh after
his arrest. The intermediary, however, relinquished the tape to McVeigh's
attorney, Stephen Jones. On the tape, Mahon told McVeigh that he was
"innocent by reason of entrapment," and that he should accept the sacrifice
for the sake of justice. Jones stated that he is not certain how Mahon's
message should be interpreted. He does not know if Mahon was telling
McVeigh to sacrifice himself for justice, or if the message was a veiled
threat against McVeigh's family that if he talked, his family was vulnerable.
Mahon produced several videotapes opposing U.S. policy in Iraq, for which
he received monthly allotments from Iraq. He also made several trips to
Germany to assist in establishing a chapter of WAR in Stockholm Sweden with
the aim of smuggling terrorist information into Germany.
Andrew "Andy" Strassmier is a German national and the grandson of a founder
of the Nazi party. His father was the Secretary of State for West Germany
and member of the Christian Democratic Coalition. Strassmier was a former
lieutenant in Germany's Panzer Grenadiers (similar to the U.S. Special
Forces) and trained in military intelligence.
In 1992, Strassmeir went to Elohim City where he assumed the position of
Chief of Security in weapons training. His knowledge of weaponry was the
most lethal of any other resident of the compound because of his military
training.

In late 1993, FBI Director Louis Freeh went to Germany to meet with German
internal security officials who told Freeh that Strassmier had been "nation
hopping" between Germany and the U.S. They expressed concerns about
Strassmier's involvement with the neo-Nazi movement.
Prior to January 1994, 22 banks and armored cars were robbed in seven
states; seven of the robberies occurred after the Oklahoma City bombing.
An estimated total of $250,000 was stolen over a period of two years.
Some people believe that these robberies funded McVeigh's actions
pertaining to the bombing.

McVeigh's sister claims that, in December 1994, he asked her to launder an
amount of one-dollar bills. Furthermore, he told her that he had been
involved in planning a bank robbery, but did not actually participate in it
and the money was his share of the proceeds.
The original leaders of the "Bank Bandits," as they were dubbed by the
press, were Richard L. "Wild Bill" Guthrie, Jr. and Peter "Commander
Pedro" Langan, the son of a CIA employee. Guthrie was arrested on 15
January 1996 with the help of a Government source and with Guthrie's
assistance, Langan was arrested three day later. On 11 August, 1996,
Langan's attorneys requested that Guthrie be transferred from the Kentucky
jail where he was being held, to Ohio, where Langan would be tried. The
following day, Guthrie was found hanged in his prison cell.
Mark Thomas, a Pennsylvania native, was a part-time truck driver with an
eighth grade education. For over 25 years, he was involved in
organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the Aryan
Republican Army. He was the leader of an extremist organization, the
"Posse Comitatus" in Pennsylvania, and he was in Elohim City on Thursday
before the bombing. He was arrested in January 1997 for conspiracy and for
receiving proceeds from the Midwest bank robberies.

The next month he changed his plea from innocent to guilty in exchange for
a reduced sentence for his cooperation. When Mahon learned of Thomas'
cooperation with authorities, he publicly stated that he was disappointed
that Thomas had "cracked so quickly," and that he had possibly ruined
25 years of development in the Aryan movement. Mahon admitted to sending
funds to Thomas' pregnant wife and child.
In February 1997, Kevin McCarthy pled guilty to robbing a Missouri bank and
participating in the planning of five other robberies. He cooperated with
prosecutors to help convict at least two of his fellow bank robbers: Scott
Stedeford and Peter Langan. Stedeford was convicted of bank robbery in an
Iowa bank heist.

Michael Brescia was involved in a Wisconsin robbery. His co-conspirators
were all arrested and convicted. Brescia has not been arrested or indicted
for any crime. He dropped out of college in his third year and left for
Oklahoma where he told friends he had a job waiting. Actually, he moved to
Elohim City where he married Robert Millar's granddaughter. The day after
the bombing, CL, a college student and close friend of McVeigh, informed
the FBI that she identified John Doe #2 as Brescia. CL had attended the
same parties in Kansas that McVeigh attended. CL's mother recognized
Brescia in the sketch and notified the FBI, who ignored her information.
At the time of the bombing, Strassmier claims that Brescia was in Little
Rock, Arkansas attending a clemency hearing for Richard Snell. On the day
the Ryder truck was rented, Brescia was in Elohim City preparing Snell's
grave, according to Robert Millar's daughter.
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THE FBI's SUPPRESSION OF EVIDENCE
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When Morris Kuper testified at the trial of Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh's
co-conspirator in the Oklahoma City bombing, he said that at 8:02 a.m. he had
seen a man closely resembling McVeigh and a swarthy, muscular man walking to
a parking lot a block from the Murrah Building. That was an hour before the
Murrah Building was blown up, killing 168 people.
Kuper, a computer expert with the Kerr-McGee Corporation, said he looked at
his watch because he was late for work. He said he saw the two men enter the
parking lot and get into an old, light-colored car like the one McVeigh was
driving when he was arrested. He called the FBI two days later, telling them
to get surveillance tapes from the public library building and the
Southwestern Bell building because they might show something interesting that
he had seen in the parking lot. They took his name and number, but did not
interview him about what he had seen until four months later.

There were many other witnesses who had seen McVeigh with a man fitting
Kuper's description before and after the bombing. The FBI had circulated a
sketch of him, calling him John Doe No. 2. They later retracted this
identification because the first of the many witnesses who saw this man had
been persuaded that he was mistaken. The FBI has yet to say whether any of
the 23 tapes that they took from surveillance cameras on the Murrah Building
and buildings nearby showed McVeigh with such a man.
An important lawsuit, "David Hoffman vs. the Department of Justice," is now
before the federal court for the Western District of Oklahoma. It is a
Freedom of Information suit seeking release of the surveillance tapes. The
Freedom of Information Act was passed to promote honesty and facilitate the
exposure of cover-ups of wrongdoing by government officials, objectives
embraced by the Bush administration. Since Attorney General John Ashcroft
appears to have bought the FBI claim that none of the material withheld by
the FBI has any significant bearing on the McVeigh and Nichols verdicts, why
is his department opposing release of the tapes?

It has even imposed a gag order to keep those familiar with the sequestered
material from discussing what it reveals. On May 29, "60 Minutes II" aired a
segment featuring four former FBI agents, three who had been forced out of
the bureau and one who had retired. One, Rick Ojeda, had won a commendation
from Louis Freeh for his work on the Oklahoma bombing case. Ojeda said that
he had checked to see if information that he had developed had been mentioned
in the trials. He asked other agents to find out if interview reports that he
had written had been turned over to the attorneys. They couldn't find them.
Ojeda wrote to Senator Charles Grassley, a critic of the FBI, saying he was
aware of exculpatory information in the Oklahoma bombing case that had been
ignored. Asked by Dan Rather to describe some of that information, Ojeda said
a gag order prevented him from doing so. He could only say, "I thought they
were leads that should have been followed up on." There was no one on the
program who was free to explain what was being concealed.

Those familiar with the evidence believe that some surveillance tapes and
many of the documents show that the John Doe that Morris Kuper saw with
McVeigh was a co-conspirator and probably a link to Middle Eastern terrorists
backing the plot. A former agent familiar with the case says John Doe was
dropped as a target because the FBI wanted a quick solution. A Middle Eastern
connection would have complicated the case.
Dan Vogel, the retired agent on the program, said that the FBI has a cultural
problem, and if it doesn't address it, it will destroy itself. That problem
is the tendency to control and manipulate the evidence to obtain a desired
result. Danny Defenbaugh, who ran the bombing investigation and now runs the
Dallas field office, where all those missing Oklahoma documents were sent,
has been described as exemplifying the culture.
A few days before the cover-up was exposed, Defenbaugh said on TV that
whenever you hear criticism of the FBI, "you never hear about the Oklahoma
City bombing case." Having sat on the documents for months, and with
McVeigh's execution imminent, he had no reason to anticipate being ordered to
turn them over.
Somewhere in the FBI family, there must be a hero who threatened to expose
the obstruction of justice, implicating Louis Freeh and forcing him to order
Danny Defenbaugh to surrender his hoard.
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Subject: 30 Oklahoma City Bombing Questions That Demand an Answer NOW!

 
Despite Timothy McVeigh's guilty verdict, numerous unanswered questions
about the murderous Oklahoma City bombing remain. Indeed, there are so
many unanswered questions, it is amazing that the prosecution was able to
secure a conviction at all.
So pull up a front-row seat for the McVeigh lynching, folks, and
contemplate a few of the contradictions in the official account of the OKC
bombing before it all gets flushed down the memory hole. If this list
doesn't make you paranoid, you must be one of them!
[To read the startling evidence which the jury was barred from hearing, be
sure to check out Timothy McVeigh's Writ of
Mandamus, http://www.thecommonman.com/mandamus.htm
1.
If the bombing of the Alfred E. Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City
was a terrorist reprisal for the Federal massacre of the Branch Davidians
at Waco, why were no BATF or FBI agents injured? Why was EVERY
BADGE-CARRYING FEDERAL AGENT absent from work at nine o'clock on a weekday
morning, their offices staffed only with civilian clerical workers?
2.
When the word first got out that no Federal agents had been present in the
building, the BATF produced its Resident Agent Alex McCauley who told a
long story about his own heroism and that of a fellow ATF man who allegedly
fell three floors in an elevator, walked away from it, and then helped
rescue others trapped by the bomb. This was quickly exposed as a
fabrication in an angry interview by building maintenance supervisor Duane
James, who described McCauley's story as "pure fantasy". James examined
the elevator in question and also the central control panel and pointed out
a number of technical and logical reasons why the miraculous elevator
incident simply couldn't have happened in the way claimed. The McCauley
account was quietly retracted and flushed down the memory hole by the ATF,
with the help of the media. They now admit that McCauley was nowhere near
the building when the bomb went off, although they refuse to discuss his
exact whereabouts or the whereabouts of any other ATF agent at the time of
the explosion.
Will BATF Agent Alex McCauley be disciplined for telling a self-serving lie
which falsely made himself out to be a hero? If that was not the purpose,
why did he make this palpably false public statement?
3.
Why was U.S. Judge Wayne Alley, whose office was located in the Federal
building, warned several weeks in advance in a Justice Department memo to
be prepared for an unnamed "terrorist act" directed against the Federal
building?
4.
Judge Alley made the above admission to the Portland Oregonian immediately
after the bombing. He has since refused to repeat it or allow himself to
be interviewed again. Why?
5.
Why did Ken Stern fax warnings to Federal judges and officials,
legislators, and prosecutors warning of a possible attack on a government
building of installation on the second anniversary of Waco on April 10th,
1995, nine days before the OKC bombing?
6.
"Norma," a witness who worked in an office building just down the street
from the Federal building, told reporter Sherry Koonce what she saw prior
to the explosion: "The day was fine, everything was normal when I arrived
for work at about 7:45 a.m. There was some talk about the bomb squad among
the employees at our office. We wondered what it was doing in our parking
lot. Around nine I heard and felt a huge explosion. Then someone said it
had to be a bomb, and we all knew. I remembered the bomb squad in our
parking lot and knew what had happened."
"Norma" has since quit her job, gone into hiding and refused to speak again
to any reporters or investigators. So have a number of other people who
saw the heavily armed and equipped bomb squad in the area up to three hours
before the blast. Why?
7.
Why did all mention of the facts outlined in questions 1 thru 6 disappeared
from the news media after the first week of coverage of the bombing? Why
has the media consistently suppressed and refused to report any information
or evidence which indicates that, at the very least and regardless of who
was responsible, there was Federal foreknowledge that the bombing would
take place?
8.
By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or else there
is no compelling reason to commit a crime. The specific purpose of
terrorism is to gain a political end through the credible threat to commit
future acts of violence. No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma City
bombing. Militia and right-wing groups, the alleged masterminds and
presumed beneficiaries, have been particularly vehement in denouncing the
explosion and in many cases have cooperated directly with Federal agencies
to absolve themselves of any involvement. The only statement of alleged
political motive comes from the very government which was attacked. Why is
this?
9.
Did the Alfred Murrah building warehouse documents relating to the attack
on the Branch Davidians at Waco? If so, what happened to those
documents? Were they destroyed? If so, were any copies kept
elsewhere? If not, why not?
10.
Will the missing papers, if any, affect former Attorney General Ramsey
Clark's lawsuit against the ATF and FBI on behalf of the Branch Davidian
survivors?

11.
Why did the Director of the University of Oklahoma's Geological Survey,
Dr. Charles Mankin, tell the media that according to two different
seismographic records there were TWO blasts, the second approximately eight
seconds after the first?
12.
The news media initially reported that there were two explosions, based on
eyewitness testimony. Why did this version of events disappear from print
and the air waves within twenty-four hours?
13.
According to the prosecution, McVeigh used an ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate and
Fuel Oil) bomb to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah federal building.
McGyver makes it look real easy on TV. But according to Department of the
Army and Air Force Technical Manual No. 9-1910, entitled Military
Explosives, ANFO requires a greater than 99% purity of ammonium nitrate, as
well as a specific dryness, before it can be mixed with diesel fuel to
create an explosive substance. The manual further spells out that even
under ideal conditions (not often reached even by experts) 4,800 pounds of
ANFO explosive would create a much smaller crater than the one left in
front of the Murrah building, and its shock wave could not possibly wield
the force necessary to compromise the building's concrete support structure.
The FBI claims that the ANFO charge was made from 50 bags of
fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate fertilizers comes in much weaker
concentrations than the 99%-plus required for explosives. Creating
concentrated amounts of ammonium nitrate is quite complex, and would
require many bags of fertilizer. In short, according to the government's
own textbook, the Oklahoma City bombing COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE WAY
THE FBI SAYS IT HAPPENED. IT IS A PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL, AND THERMODYNAMIC
IMPOSSIBILITY. Why is the FBI lying?
14.
Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, former commander of
the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, a 25-year expert in the
design and development of bombs, urged Senators and Congressmen to delay
the destruction of the Murrah building site. Partin stated in a news
release, "When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical
damage to the Federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that
the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without
supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases
inside the building, a standard demolition technique." Partin further
explained that "reinforced concrete targets in large buildings are hard
targets to blast. I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent
building damage through simply a truck bomb effort."
General Partin's request to have the bomb site preserved in order to
examine the possibility of a second explosion was ignored by the
government. Why?
15.
General Partin's press release, quoted above, was reprinted in the John
Birch Society magazine New American. Based on this the news media launched
an egregious and bogus smear campaign against General Benton K. Partin,
claiming falsely that he was a member of the John Birch Society and
therefore a "right-wing extremist". [General Partin's report has been
widely circulated and reproduced, including an electronic version here on
ParaScope.] General Partin has been forced repeatedly to threaten lawsuits
in order to obtain grudging and deliberately downplayed retractions and
corrections of this allegation. His alleged JBS membership still appears
in print and broadcast media today as fact, even though the media are by
now perfectly well aware that the allegation is false. Why are the news
media telling a deliberate lie in order to discredit a highly respected
expert who questions the official government version of Oklahoma City?
16.
There have been repeated studies done by a variety of accredited explosives
experts and professional demolition contractors, such as former FBI agent
Ted Gunderson. All of these have stated their professional opinion that
the destruction of the Murrah building could only have been accomplished
with top-grade military explosives, detonators, and careful placement of
multiple charges. Why have the media ignored these expert opinions?
Why, indeed, have the media engaged in a concerted campaign to abuse, vilify, discredit and
marginalize as a "crank" or a "right-wing extremist"
any explosives expert or engineer who questions the official FBI version of
the bomb's construction and explosive power?
17.
There is not a single piece of concrete evidence to connect either Timothy
McVeigh or Terry Nichols to any militia or right-wing group.
Why has the news media refused to acknowledge this fact and continued to
spread the patently false assertion that McVeigh was a member of a militia
group?
18.
Terry Nichols has been married twice, once to a Mexican woman and once to a
Filipina. Obviously, a man who marries women of color not once but twice
and has children with them can hardly be called a racist.
Why has this fact, which clearly precludes any racist or neo-Nazi
involvement in the bombing of the kind implied by the media, not been given
any significant exposure at all? And why has the media ignored connections
between the Oklahoma City bombing and the very real, very racist Elohim
City compound in Arkansas, not to mention Andreas Strassmeir, grandson of
one of the founders of the Nazi party in Germany?
19.
Having allegedly just committed a coldly calculated, carefully and
meticulously planned mass murder, why did Timothy McVeigh then suddenly
turn into a Clouseau-like klutz and do everything but send up a flare to
draw attention to himself? Why did he go speeding out of the state at
almost 100 mph in a yellow car with no license plate, virtually
guaranteeing that he would be stopped?
20.
Timothy McVeigh is a highly trained combat NCO who won a Bronze Star for
courage under fire in the Gulf. Having been stopped by a state trooper,
being armed with a pistol, and knowing that he now faced either execution
or imprisonment for the rest of his natural life, why did McVeigh make no
move at all to defend himself or escape, instead surrendering like a little
lamb?
21.
FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's truck rental agency by
finding a vehicle identification number (VIN) on the truck's rear
axle. This axle was found either in the bomb crater, according to the
mayor of Oklahoma City's initial press statement, or three blocks away
according to the later FBI version. Which statement is true?
22.
There is another problem to the Ryder truck tale. No rear axle on any
vehicle manufactured in America is imprinted with a VIN, even after recent
legislation forcing manufacturers to place multiple VINS on the engine,
firewall, and frame to discourage chop shops. When queried, a spokesman
for Ryder told reporters than it does not imprint additional VINS on its
trucks. The only conceivable number available on a rear axle is a part
number, but a part number couldn't lead to the identification of a specific
vehicle. We have here another case where the FBI version of events simply
COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED in the way the Bureau claims it happened. Where
did the VIN story come from? Why has it been created and circulated by the
media?
23.
Did McVeigh use fake I.D. or his real I.D. to rent the truck?
The FBI has relayed both stories as being true.
24.
The FBI detained and interrogated Timothy McVeigh's young sister Jennifer
and Terry Nichols' twelve year-old son. They announced in the media that
both of them were suspects and that Jennifer McVeigh was facing indictment
and the death penalty. These charges later vanished, and both young people
were released. While undergoing harsh FBI interrogation, Jennifer McVeigh
was exposed to projections of shocking, graphic images of bombing
victims. What is the story here?
25.
Who is John Doe Number Two? Does he exist at all? The FBI first conducted
a nationwide manhunt for JD-2 over a period of several weeks. Then they
claimed that a U.S. Army soldier on leave, whose published photographs
bear no resemblance whatsoever to the photofits, was JD-2. Then they
claimed for some months that JD-2 does not exist, and that all the
witnesses who saw him were mistaken. Now they are hedging again and say
they have an "open mind" about whether John Doe Number Two exists. What's
the deal?
26.
In January of 1996, National Public Radio broadcast a half-hour special
containing interviews with half a dozen witnesses who personally saw John
Doe Number Two in the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh on the morning of
the bombing. These witnesses all had one thing in common; other than a
cursory preliminary interview by the FBI they had up until that time been
approached by neither the prosecution nor the defense to appear as
witnesses at the trial. Why not? Will any witnesses who saw John Doe
Number Two be called to testify?
27.
In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel Spiegelman was
arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen diamonds and
antiques. In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice Department quietly
applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the United States IN CONNECTION
WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. This was accompanied by representations at
the highest level demanding that the Netherlands courts hear the case in
camera and that the proceedings be kept completely secret.
Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge refused
to impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it, and Janet Reno
allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon the entire bizarre
episode vanished from public view. No more media blackout in the OKC case
has been more pervasive than the blackout imposed over the name of Daniel
Spiegelman; it is as if he has stepped off the face of the planet.
Who is Daniel Spiegelman? What connection does he have with Oklahoma
City? Is he John Doe Number Two? Does he know who John Doe Number Two is?
28.
FBI informant and star witness Michael Fortier, who admits to trading his
testimony for lenient sentencing on gun charges himself, claims that he and
Timothy McVeigh scouted out the Murrah building several weeks in advance
looking for the BATF offices therein. If that is true, why did Timothy
McVeigh stop the Ryder truck at a gas station on the morning of the bombing
and ask directions to the building?
And why did he park the truck on the side of the building the farthest away
from the BATF offices, when there was an available parking lot which would
have placed the truck bomb almost directly under the seventh-floor windows
of the BATF?
29.
Why was the reaction of the Clinton administration, blaming right-wing
radio talk shows for the incident and demanding the most draconian police
state legislation ever proposed in the United States, so swift and
obviously organized? The air of orchestration about the entire government
response did not escape notice even at the time, and was commented on by a
number of observers across the political spectrum.
A blizzard of OKC-inspired "domestic terrorism" bills were rushed into
Congress in a matter of days, some of them pre-written and already printed
up BEFORE THE BOMBING. These proposed laws cover everything from banning
virtually all privately owned firearms to unlimited and court-admissible
Federal wiretaps to censorship of the Internet to the suspension of habeas
corpus in "terrorism" cases to the grotesque destruction of the First
Amendment advocated in Charles Schumer's bill H.R. 2580, which imposes a
five-year prison sentence for publicly engaging in "unseemly speculation"
and publishing or transmitting by wire or electronic means "baseless
conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the United
States". Who decides what is a "baseless conspiracy theory'? Why, the
very same government, of course.
How was a normally cumbersome, inefficient, and glacially slow legislative
branch able to move so quickly, so comprehensively, and so efficiently in
introducing these laws which will strip Americans of what remaining
freedoms they have?
30.
Why did it take so unconscionably long for the trial of Timothy McVeigh and
Terry Nichols to begin?
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THE FORWARNING OF A BOMBING
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In the first minutes and hours following the blasts that
devastated the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
downtown Oklahoma City, the morning of April 19, 1995, a
number of selfless individuals risked life and limb to rescue
many of the victims. Among them were Oklahoma City
police officers, Terrance Yeakey, Gordon Martin and Ken
Griffin, a number of Oklahoma City firefighters, Dr. H. Don
Chumley, G.S.A. employee Mike Loudenslager and others.

In the aftermath of the "bombing" the name Mike
Loudenslager holds particular significance in the hearts of
many families in and around Oklahoma City. And this is so,
because of the forewarning he gave to a number of those
who had children in the Murrah Building's day-care center.
In the weeks preceding the bombing, G.S.A. employee,
Michael Loudenslager, 48, became increasingly aware that
large amounts of ordnance and explosives were in the
building and strongly urged (along with the operator of the
day-care center) a number of parents to take their children
out of the Murrah Building.

This situation arose after other employees became concerned
with an increased amount of ordnance (missiles) being
brought into the building by the B.A.T.F. and D.E.A. As a
result of this concern, a grievance was filed with G.S.A. by
the building's security director. The result was, the man
who'd complained lost his job there. Then, after the operator
of the day-care center (the security director's wife) notified
the fire marshals after some remodeling had been done (as
her license required her to do), the fire marshals were denied
access to do their inspection by federal agents and told to
leave! And the day-care operator lost her contract.

As a result of this (fearing the worst with all the talk around
town of a possible bombing), Mike Loudenslager and the
day-care center operator then told many of the parents to get
their children out. And, because of their warnings, far fewer
children were in the day-care center on that horrible
Wednesday morning than there otherwise would have been.
A number of families, in and around Oklahoma City, have
these two people to thank for their children's lives today.

Shortly after the bombing, Michael Loudenslager was
actively helping in the rescue and recovery effort. A large
number of those at the bomb-site either saw or talked with
him. During the course of the early rescue efforts, however,
Mike Loudenslager was seen and heard in a very "heated"
confrontation with someone (there). Much of his anger
stemmed from the fact he felt the B.A.T.F. was in large part
responsible not only for the bombing, but for the death and
inury to those inside, including all the children.

To the absolute astonishment of a large number of police
officers and rescue workers, it was later reported that G.S.A.
employee Mike Loudenslager's body had been found inside
the Murrah Building the following Sunday, still at his desk, a
victim of the 9:02 A.M. bombing! This, mind you, after he'd
already been seen alive and well by numerous rescue
workers at the bomb-site AFTER the bombing! He is also
officially listed as one of the 168 bombing fatalities.

The question now becomes: Was he murdered and placed at
his desk by federal agents? Or was he just simply murdered
by them and SAID to have been found at his desk? Access
to the inside of the building, from shortly after the bombing
onward was extremely limited to nearly all but federal
employees by the F.B.I.

His death is UNQUESTIONABLY the most important
sidelight of the Oklahoma City bombing. Mike
Loudenslager's murder, most assuredly was one of the major
factors leading to the demise of both Dr. H. Don Chumley
and later Terry Yeakey.

For whatever reason, the Oklahoma City Police Dept. has
always down-played Officer Terry Yeakey's presence at the
Murrah Building the morning of April 19, 1995, even though
a large number of Oklahoma City police officers, firefighters,
emergency personnel and survivors KNOW he played a
much larger role in the early rescue-effort than he's given
credit for.

In an effort to cover up Mike Loudenslager's murder and to
intimidate others who were there early-on that morning,
someone has taken out a number of internal witnesses. Dr.
Don Chumley AND Terry Yeakey, both, besides being at
the Murrah Building that morning, shared one other
commonality. Each at the time of his "death" was attempting
to deliver EVIDENCE concerning the fact Mike
Loudenslager was alive and well AFTER the bombing, and
also to get certain other facts out about the "bombing" as
well.

In Terry Yeakey's case he thought he was delivering
evidence and information to a multi-county task force who
would help get the truth out That's how he was set-up. In
Dr. Chumley's case, he was killed, some months earlier,
when his personal jet aircraft "crashed" while attempting to
do the same thing.

Were the deaths of Jack Colvert, Jackie Majors and Buddy
Youngblood also directly related to the cover-up of Mike
Loudenslager's murder? Each of them had been at the
Murrah Building that morning and each had also seen Mike
Loudenslager ALIVE and well after the bombing. Others
who were there that morning have also felt threatened.
Officer Gordon Martin, for one, feels at least two attempts
on his life have been made. Other police officers and
emergency services personnel fear for their personal safety
as well.

And while all this goes on, the moguls of themajor-media
remain silent! The so-called "fourth pillar of democracy" -
the press - once again falls flat on its face, foresaking its
sacred duty to REPORT THE NEWS. Remember, Hell is
just as hot for those who go there for sins of OMISSION as
those who go for sins of COMMISSION!.

Another interesting case of "suicide" in Oklahoma, since the
bombing, is that of Kenneth Trentadue, who as the result of
violating conditions of his parole in California, was
re-incarcerated and sent to a federal (transfer) facility in
Oklahoma. Mr. Trentadue, the brother of a prominent Salt
Lake City, Utah attorney, supposedly committed suicide by
hanging himself. But in actuality managed to commit a
"suicide" very similar to Terry Yeakey's (minus the
gunshot-wound-to-the-head). Only Kenneth Trentadue's was
committed with knotted or "braided" bedsheet, barely long
enough to fit around his neck in a "suicide-proof" prison cell.

THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE later reported the trustees
who cleaned Mr. Trentadue's cell after his "suicide" found
copious amounts of blood inside. This included bloody
fingerprints up a wall, to within a few inches of a "panic
button" on or near the ceiling. This certainly is not consistent
with hanging. When his family was contacted by prison
officials and informed of his "suicide", they were asked if
they wanted his remains cremated. They indicated they did
not, and after a very difficult time and much red-tape, the
body was finally shipped back to them.

Being very skeptical as to a suicide, family members
removed the mortuary make-up and were shocked to find
part of his skull crushed, his knuckles damaged, bruises,
puncture-and-slash-wounds over a good portion of his body
(including the soles of his feet) and his throat slashed. Boot
heel marks were apparent around the right eye and on his
chest. All evidence points to the fact Kenneth Trentadue was
subdued after a fight - brutally beaten, tortured and
murdered!

(Update: THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE, Sat. July 11, 1998
- states M.E. says Trentadue death "suicide"!). This case is
"supposedly" being looked into by U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch.
Former 7-term U.S. Rep. George Hansen of Idaho and his
organization, The United States Citizens Human Rights
Commission, IS, however, actively pursuing it. Former Rep.
Hansen was himself unjustly convicted and imprisoned and
spent a number of years literally as a political prisoner in the
federal penal system until his case was finally decided by the
U.S. Supreme Court.

Many Americans who are familiar with the Trentadue case
see a chilling similarity between Officer Terry Yeakey's
"suicide" and Kenneth Trentadue's. Especially when each
occurred in such close proximity to the other, in and around
El Reno and Oklahoma City, AFTER the bombing. Like
Terry Yeakey, Kenneth Trentadue, (although smaller) was
also a powerfully-built man. He lifted weights regularly, had
a 19-inch neck and was a street-fighter with street savvy. In
short, he knew how to take care of himself.

Many now wonder if Kenneth Trentadue might have had
information regarding the Oklahoma City bombing, or its
aftermath, that certain agents wanted him taken-out for. And
many also wonder why a man re-incarcerated for violating
his parole would REQUEST solitary confinement. What was
Kenneth Trentadue afraid of?

Could the murder of Murrah Building G.S.A. employee
Michael Loudenslager and the subsequent cover-up be the
reason for (many of) the unresolved deaths in Oklahoma
since the bombing? A growing number of Americans
certainly think so.
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AGAIN, THE SUPPRESSION OF EVIDENCE
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The bombing of the Murrah Building was over six years ago. Memories fade about things so I thought
I'd resurrect one of the strangest aspects of this bombing you're not going to believe - but it's true:
Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, wrote a manuscript in 1991, roughly four years
before the OKC bombing. Gov. Frank Keating is a former FBI hot shot. His brother, Martin could not
get this work published until after the bombing. This manuscript, now a published book, is titled The
Final Jihad. In this book, Keating lays out a story of terrorists, based in OKC, who decide to bomb a
federal building. Guess what the name of the one of the key "terrorists" in the book is? Tom McVey.
And for the kicker of this fictional work: The terrorists in The Final Jihad are stopped by an
Oklahoma highway patrolman for a broken tail light.

Now, let me see: We have a book in manuscript form written four years before the OKC bombing
whose story line involves terrorists in Oklahoma City. This part of this fictional work comes true.
We have a main character in the book by the name of Tom McVey. In real life, the bomber four
years later in OKC is named Tim McVeigh.
We have the terrorists in this fictional work stopped by Oklahoma state troopers for a broken tail
light. In real life, our bomber, Tim McVeigh, is pulled over by an Oklahoma state trooper because of a
missing license plate.
How's that for fiction being stranger than reality? In this book, remember it's written in 1991, our
author also predicts the TWA downing and the World Trade Center bombing. Was this just a
premonition that Mr. Keating had? Who knows, but this book sure does sound like a blue print for the
bombing.
What is Mr. Martin Keating's background? In his own words:
http://www.firstkeating.com/author.htm
"Martin Keating is a master storyteller with unique access to government intelligence agencies and
clandestine terrorist groups. His brother Frank Keating, currently governor of Oklahoma, is a former
FBI agent and assistant secretary of the Treasury who supervised the Secret Service, U.S. Customs,
and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Keating's uncle, Barney Martin was a career
intelligence officer who headed the U.S. Navy's worldwide foreign intelligence collection operations
and counterintelligence activities.

Introduced to the intelligence community through generations of family involvement, Martin
Keating knows intimate details of what the rest of us can only imagine. Armed with firsthand
knowledge of explosives and of chemical and biological weapons, Keating accurately reveals what the
highest government officials have known, feared, and covered up for much too long."
Martin Keating also bragged after the bombing that he had copies of the surveillance film from the
Southwest Bell building across the street from the Murrah building. The film from the Regency
Towers survived completely intact. The government claims the Southwest Bell film didn't - my
money says they're lying and they're lying to protect their assets and their invented story. There
wasn't a scintilla of this strange story in any media publications except Media Bypass Magazine. You
would think the "mainstream media" would have jumped on this like a June-bug just because of who
the author of the manuscript is: Brother of the Governor of the State of Oklahoma. Nope. Dead
silence.
Has anyone ever put Martin Keating under oath and ask him to produce these video surveillance
films? Nope.
There is talk that Frank Keating - who states emphatically on the live news coverage the morning
of the bombing that more bombs were found and "have been removed from the building" (a statement
he now denies, but is memorialized on film) - may be slated to replace Louis Freeh. Oh, good, that
makes me feel real warm and fuzzy.
I just thought I'd bring up this little bit of history that has such a strange resemblance to what
happened in OKC. Today J. Dougherty of Worldnetdaily.com, wrote a piece titled, To Die or Not To
Die:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23037

Jon pretty much says what the rest of us are saying: There are so many unanswered questions and
McVeigh is evidence. Why is a supposdely good Christian, John Ashcroft trying his darndest to hurry
up with this execution? I have a few more questions:
McVeigh allegedly gave a false name, using fake ID in the name of "Bob Kling" to rent the Ryder
truck, yet he rented a hotel room where he parked this big beacon the same day using his own name.
How come? We sure have a lot of strange
things and numerous "Tim McVeigh's" running around.
How come we have so many Ryder trucks and how come everyone likes yellow Ryder trucks so
much? I've linked a few things in my past two posts on this, but here's another one:
 
Dennis Mahon, grand poo-ba of the Eloim City crowd and a very bad guy, make no mistake about
it. Carol Howe was apparently involved with this guy. Ms. Howe was an ATF undercover informant
later charged and tried by the government; she was acquitted. As I said, everyone seems to love
yellow Ryder trucks, from the World Trade Center to OKC to Eloim City. How come no one ever
rents U-Haul or some other brand? How come they're always from Ryder and always yellow? Ryder
rents white trucks, I've seen them.
On May 8, 1995, Michael Fortier, who has just been given an 18 month pass off his 12.5 year
prison term, told CNN "I do not believe Tim blew up any building in Oklahoma. There's nothing for
me to look back on and say, 'Yeah, that might have
been. I should have seen it back then.' There's nothing like that." Two weeks later, he claims that he
and McVeigh actually visited the OKC federal building and "cased" the place.
What does Hoppy Heidelberg have to say about this? If you've read my previous posts or kept up
with this bombing through other sources, you know that Hoppy was the original foreman of the grand
jury that eventually indicted McVeigh
and Nichols. You can read a really good interview with Hoppy at:
http://www.devvy.com/9606.html#grand

Hoppy has this to say in that interview:
"Q: Let's talk about Michael Fortier, McVeigh's friend. At first when the FBI questioned he said
McVeigh would never have blown-up the federal building and killed all those people. He said all the
FBI had on McVeigh was his arrest for a traffic violation and a concealed weapons charge. Then a
couple of months later he's saying that he and McVeigh actually went to OKC and cased the federal
building with an eye to bombing it. What's going on here?
A: No. You're off base on that.
Q: You mean on Fortier's confession? He's confessed to being a participant in the bombing.
A: That's not it.
Q: I don't understand.
A: Let me put it this way, if I had been Fortier's attorney, he would have walked. He wouldn't have
given a statement and he would have walked.
Q: That's pretty strong.
A: There's a lot you need to know about Fortier.
Q: In the Media Bypass article, you said he was just a kid and the FBI put a big scare into him.
A: Tremendous pressure. They brought 24 hour-a-day pressure on him for several months at great
expense. They were on him at his job in Kingman, AZ., and because of that he was fired. They were
on him at his home at his trailer, too.
Q: That much?
A: Do you see?
Q: Well, I know there was a weapons charge they were threatening Fortier with, and I believe they
also said they'd put his wife in jail if he didn't cooperate.
A: It has to do with the sheer amount of pressure over that period of time.
Q: Wearing him down.
A: He had no attorney.
Q: Are you serious?
A: For that whole period. And he wasn't under arrest either.
Q: That's -
A: He was pressured for 24 hours a day and e had no attorney. He's a kid. He's not smart enough
to understand what's going on.
Q: Not smart enough -
A: To realize the FBI had nothing on him. He had no one to advise him.
Q: The FBI couldn't arrest him?
A: They didn't want to arrest him.
Q: Why not?
A: Because if they did, they'd have to appoint a lawyer for him. It was months before he was
arrested.
Q: I'm digesting this. It's very bizarre.
A: He got conned.
Q: But eventually he did give them what they wanted. He confessed to being involved in the crime
with McVeigh.
A: You're missing it.
Q: Well, if he hasn't made an outright confession -
A: Let me ask you something. What's the fastest way to get from Kingman, AZ., to Southern
Kansas?
Q: I have no idea. If Fortier and McVeigh were traveling from Kingman to Southern Kansas....
A: They'd go through OKC.
Q: Oh. Fortier just told the FBI they had been in OKC on their way to Kansas? That's all? He
didn't say they were casing the federal building?
A: You're warmer.
Q: Well, all right. If Fortier never told the FBI they cased the building...
A: It's somewhere in between.
Q: In between? You mean, it's between they were just passing through OKC and they were casing
the building?
A: You're warmer.
Q: Fortier told the FBI they were in OKC on the way to Kansas and they went by the federal
building, and they looked at it. Something like that.
A: Something like that.
Q: And there was never a real admission about planning to blow up the building.
A: You need to read Fortier's confession. It was printed in the Daily Oklahoman.
Q: Fortier, the prosecution's big witness, never confessed. Is that what you're saying? Not even
close?
A: Not even close.
Q: But the prosecution didn't need him to gain an indictment against McVeigh.
A: They want Fortier as a witness in the actual trial. Big time. But if his statement is so far south of
being a confession, then they can't really use him at the trial.
Q: No they can use him. What he has to say won't make an impression on some jurors, but it could
tip the scales for other more gullible jurors. The FBI spent all this time pressuring the hell out of
Fortier.
A: That's very important because you see, obviously that was the best they could do. They stayed
with him so long because they had nothing better. Fortier's involvement in the bombing was so
minimal it was a waste of time. If I was the FBI man in charge, I would have made one run at Fortier
and then forgotten all about him.
Q: So in other words, he never confessed to casing the building with McVeigh.
A: The media has completely exaggerated it. Fortier and McVeigh were driving through OKC on
the way to Kansas and they passed by the federal building. Something like that.
Q: And the media stretched that.
A: Something like that.
Q: And the FBI spent so much time pressuring Fortier to link McVeigh to the bombing because
they had nothing better.
A: They had nothing better.
Q: But you feel McVeigh is linked to the bombing.
A: Yes, I do. But the FBI relied on a man, Fortier, who really couldn't provide anything important
to them. You need to remember that. That's important. There's more to this." *End*
Why did Terry Nichols turn himself in to police and give detailed statements to the FBI without an
attorney present? He sees his name out on the television set and goes in to set the record straight. If
you were responsible for this heinous crime, would you hang around your farm house and then go
turn yourself in for questioning? I guess if you're really, really dumb you would.......
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CONFESSIONS OF AN FBI AGENT
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NEW YORK, May 29, 2001 (CBS) Four FBI agents involved in the Oklahoma City
bombing investigation have told 60 Minutes II that they were not surprised that evidence was not
turned over before trial, causing a delay in the execution of Timothy McVeigh.
One agent says evidence that he personally obtained - evidence that might
have helped McVeigh's case - may have been ignored or not documented by the
FBI. Rob Nigh, McVeigh's attorney, says the new information will change
the course of his client's case in the near future.
Rick Ojeda received a commendation for his work on the Oklahoma City
bombing case, but was later fired in what he calls an act of retaliation
for bringing discrimination complaints against his bosses. In March 2000,
Ojeda stated in a letter to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) that he was
aware of cases, including the Oklahoma City bombing, where exculpatory
evidence was ignored and not documented. He also said that he personally
gathered some of that evidence.
"I started thinking and I started going back and checking to see if some of
the information that I had provided had ever been mentioned at trial, and I
talked to a couple of agents that worked the case and asked them about
leads that I had done - whether they were ever brought up," says Ojeda. "I
even asked them to check to see if some of the [documents] that I had
mentioned had ever been turned over and they couldn't find them and so I
started to wonder if the stuff had been withheld or just lost, which was
common," says Ojeda.
Veteran FBI agent Jim Volz was also on duty the day McVeigh destroyed the
Alfred P. Murrah federal building. He reviewed the FBI's internal documents on the bombing,
including interview notes, witness statements, sightings and tips. "It's extremely surprising to me that
these documents all of a sudden show up," says Volz. "There's no reason for it unless there is
negligence."
Dan Vogel was the FBI's public voice in Oklahoma City during the bombing
investigation. Vogel says he's concerned that the FBI waited until a week
before McVeigh's execution to reveal the missing documents. "If you're not
turning them over, you're obstructing justice," says Vogel.
"There was as cultural problem in the FBI that needed to be addressed,
otherwise it is going to destroy itself," says Vogel. "You see the FBI is
made up of a lot of very fine, dedicated people. And these people deserve
better, the American public deserve better, and these recent revelations
where we have a man scheduled for execution and all of a sudden we find
documents that haven't been turned over to the defense attorneys or to the
prosecution a week before the execution, that really made up my mind, after
that there was no question in my mind that I needed to come here today and
do whatever I could to - to try to get this changed."
60 Minutes II shared the information provided by the FBI agents with
McVeigh's attorney Rob Nigh. "That information should, at minimum, change
the course of this case in the near future," says Nigh. "If those
statements [provided by the FBI agents] are accurate, the verdict has no
integrity and we cannot possibly proceed with an execution until we
know... These agents have indicated that there is at least a possibility
of misconduct rising to the level of criminal misconduct in Tim McVeigh’s
case. The importance of this information cannot be overstated... I was
absolutely overwhelmed."
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A QUESTION OF 4,034, AND COUNTING
---------------------------------

In all, 4,034 pages of materials about the April 1995 bombing of the Alfred
P. Murrah Federal Building have been found that should have been turned
over to McVeigh's attorneys years ago. The FBI says computer and
record-keeping blunders caused the problem and that some documents were not
material to the case.
McVeigh's execution was delayed this month until June 11 after Justice
Department officials acknowledged the existence of the documents.
Attorney General John Ashcroft Thursday insisted none of the new evidence
bears on McVeigh's conviction or sentence and said no further delay would
be necessary.
Nathan Chambers, a member of McVeigh's legal team, said Saturday he could
not comment on any of the FBI documents. He said attorneys had not yet
decided whether to seek a new trial or a stay of execution.
A court order prevents the Justice Department from releasing the evidence
to the public or describing it in detail. Among the evidence found,
according to Ashcroft, were:
Newspaper, magazine clippings and a swimsuit calendar from a person in
psychiatric care. "Most of these clippings did not pertain to the
bombing," the attorney general said.
Correspondence from a person offering unspecified information in exchange
for getting a person released from prison, a large cash award and a trip to
Europe.
Letters containing information about "non-physical beings" and "offers by
psychics to contact victims for information on the bombing."
Documents recording services of subpoenas and other routine legal matters.
Ashcroft Thursday said the evidence also contained fingerprint cards and
criminal history reports of "persons who turned out to have no connection
to the case."

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Timothy McVeigh's Essay

Timothy McVeigh, sentenced to death for his role in the April 19, 1995, bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, penned the following essay, dated "March 1998," from his cell in the administrative maximum section of the federal prison in Florence, Colo. In a preface, McVeigh wrote, "I have chosen Media Bypass as a possible forum for this piece because, frankly, I realize that it is quite provocative - and I doubt that any mainstream media would touch it. (Note that although the enclosed is very provocative, it was written to provoke thought! - and was not written with malevolent intent.)" McVeigh apologized for the essay being handwritten, but noted his "current (unique) environment does not provide access to a typewriter, a word processor or a copier (hell, I'm lucky they let me have a pen!), so I hope you understand why this is being submitted handwritten - and I hope you can overcome this shortcoming."

McVeigh, whose interview with Media Bypass (February 1996) was picked up and dissected by the New York Times and major media outlets across the nation, also expressed concerns that reporting subsequent to this essay might be "printed out-of-context... but at least the original can be accurate."

A decorated U.S. Army veteran of the Persian Gulf War, McVeigh hereby offers his contribution to the debate over U.S. policy toward Iraq, a policy that McVeigh says is marked by a "deep hypocrisy."


(ESSAY BEGINS) The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction") - mainly because they have used them in the past. Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) - with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen these photos juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki? I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction." Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones - Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants - mostly women and children - in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks, or months to die.)

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges against him and his nation, whey do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" - like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above? The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction. Hypocrisy when it comes to the death of children?

In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes "a shield." Think about that. (Actually, there is a difference here. The administration has admitted to knowledge of the presence of children in or near Iraqi government buildings, yet they still proceed with their plans to bomb - saying that they cannot be held responsible if children die. There is no such proof, however, that knowledge of the presence of children existed in relation to the Oklahoma City bombing.)

When considering morality and "mens rea" (criminal intent) in light of these facts, I ask: Who are the true barbarians? Yet another example of this nation's blatant hypocrisy is revealed by the polls which suggest that this nation is greatly in favor of bombing Iraq. In this instance, the people of the nation approve of bombing government employees because they are "guilty by association" - they are Iraqi government employees. In regard to the bombing in Oklahoma City, however, such logic is condemned. What motivates these seemingly contradictory positions? Do people think that government workers in Iraq are any less human than those in Oklahoma City? Do they think that Iraqis don't have families who will grieve and mourn the loss of their loved ones? In this context, do people come to believe that the killing of foreigners is somehow different than the killing of Americans?

I recently read of an arrest in New York City where possession of a mere pipe bomb was charged as possession of a "weapon of mass destruction." If a two-pound pipe bomb is a "weapon of mass destruction," then what do people think that a 2,000-pound steel-encased bomb is? I find it ironic, to say the least, that one of the aircraft that could be used to drop such a bomb on Iraq is dubbed "The Spirit of Oklahoma." This leads me to a final, and unspoken, moral hypocrisy regarding the use of weapons of mass destruction. When a U.S. plane or cruise missile is used to bring destruction to a foreign people, this nation rewards the bombers with applause and praise. What a convenient way to absolve these killers of any responsibility for the destruction they leave in their wake. Unfortunately, the morality of killing is not so superficial. The truth is, the use of a truck, a plane, or a missile for the delivery of a weapon of mass destruction does not alter the nature of the act itself. These are weapons of mass destruction - and the method of delivery matters little to those on the receiving end of such weapons.

Whether you wish to admit it or not, when you approve, morally, of the bombing of foreign targets by the U.S. military, you are approving of acts morally equivalent to the bombing in Oklahoma City. The only difference is that this nation is not going to see any foreign casualties appear on the cover of Newsweek magazine. It seems ironic and hypocritical that an act as viciously condemned in Oklahoma City is now a "justified" response to a problem in a foreign land. Then again, the history of United States policy over the last century, when examined fully, tends to exemplify hypocrisy.

When considering the used of weapons of mass destruction against Iraq as a means to and end, it would be wise to reflect on the words of the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. His words are as true in the context of Olmstead as they are when they stand alone: "Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by its example."

Sincerely, Timothy J. McVeigh (ESSAY ENDS)


The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Reichstag Fire
------------------------------------------------

Carroll Quigley, the late professor of history at the Foreign
Service School of Georgetown University, was the author of "Tragedy and Hope; A
History of the World in our Time." At Georgetown, Quigley influenced much of
America's future elite including former President Clinton who praised
Quigley in his acceptance speech at the 1992 Democratic National Convention.
Tragedy and Hope, 1311 pages, offers profound insight into the philosophy
and actions of much of the ruling elite of the world. This extraordinary
book explains many of the factors operating behind the significant events of
the first half of the 20th century.

On pages 437- 438, Quigley discusses the Reichstag fire, February
27, 1933, in which the German Reichstag, or Parliament building, was burned down just a few weeks after Hitler came to power. Quigley describes the fire as the
result of a premeditated plot which led to the suspension of the German
Constitution. There seem to be some rather ominous parallels to this
historical event and the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City, April 19, 1994.

A cursory look at the Oklahoma bombing raises several unanswered
questions that seem to indicate a much more complex situation than the official "lone nut" theory that Timothy McVeigh, the worst terrorist in US history, was
solely responsible. Several questions beg to be answered. Why was every
badge-carrying federal agent absent from work on the day of the bombing?
Federal Judge Wayne Alley had an office is in the Federal building, and,
according to his statement to the Portland Oregonian, was warned, several
weeks in advance in a Justice Department memo, to be prepared for a
"terrorist act" against the building.

Several people reported seeing a heavily armed and equipped bomb
squad in
the area of the Federal building hours before the bombing. Charles Mankin,
director of the University of Oklahoma Geological Survey, reported that,
according to two different seismographic records, there were two blasts,
eight seconds apart, at the federal building. In fact, news reports within
twenty four hours of the bombing reported that there were two explosions.
This version subsequently disappeared from all media accounts.

According to "Military Explosives," the Army and Air Force
Technical Manual
No. 9 -1910, an ammonium nitrate bomb, the type in McVeigh's Ryder truck,
could not have, by itself, done the type of damage done to the federal
building. This is corroborated by Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton
K. Partin, former commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory
and a 25 year expert on bombs, who stated the following in a news release;
"When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical damage to the
federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of
damage would have been technically impossible without supplementary
demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases inside the
building, a standard demolition technique...reinforced concrete targets in
large buildings are hard targets to blast. I know of no way possible to
reproduce the apparent building damage through simply a truck bomb effort."
Gen. Partin was one of many explosives experts who expressed this opinion.

Why did McVeigh, a highly trained combat NCO, after bombing the
Murrah
building, speed out of the state at almost 100 mph in a yellow car with no
license plate virtually guaranteeing that he would be stopped? National
Public Radio, Jan. 1996, interviewed 6 witnesses who personally saw "John
Doe II" in the Ryder truck with McVeigh on the morning of the bombing and
yet none of these witnesses were contacted to testify by either the
prosecution or the defense at the McVeigh trial. Why was the Murrah
building, the main piece of evidence that could have unraveled the whole
mystery, destroyed?

Anyone who publicly criticized the official version of the
bombing, men
such as Gen. Partin, were smeared and denounced with the usual epithet
"right wing extremist." The term "right wing" is never defined. The
implication is that they are either lying as a result of some sort of
political motivation, or that they are crazy. The only apparent motivation
from people such as Gen. Partin and others, is to objectively uncover the
truth whatever it may be. The political motivation appears to exist on the
side of those who seem to be suppressing the truth. What is the purpose of
that motivation?

In the aftermath of the bombing, the Clinton administration blamed
"right-wing" talk show hosts and militias. These slanders, the same type
used by Hitler in the aftermath of the Reichstag fire where he blamed
communists, have never been proven and were quite self serving. "Domestic
terrorism" legislation was submitted to Congress within days of the bombing,
some of it written and printed before the bombing. This proposed legislation
included the virtual banning of private ownership of firearms, censorship of
the internet, virtually unlimited ability for the government to use
wiretaps, the suspension of habeas corpus rights in "terrorism" cases, and
Sen. Charles Shumer's bill, H.R. 2580 which would impose a five year prison
sentence for publicly engaging in "unseemly speculation" or publishing
"baseless conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the United
States". The government would grant itself the power to decide what
constituted a "conspiracy theory."

Quigley, in Tragedy and Hope, points out that "The day following
the
(Reichstag) fire, (Feb. 28, 1933), (President Paul von) Hindenburg signed a
decree suspending all civil liberties and giving the government power to
invade any personal privacy, including the right to search private homes or
confiscate property." Quigley goes on to point out that "Several people who
knew the truth, including a Nationalist Reichstag member, Dr. Oberfohren,
were murdered in March and April to prevent their circulating the true
story". Nazi Germany used the premeditated Reichstag fire to weave it's own
conspiracy theory as a justification for the suspension of the Constitution.
The results of this action are well known.

Thank God the US is not Nazi Germany. Enough people in this
country still
understand our constitutionally guaranteed individual and property rights to
thwart a Nazi style conspiracy to suspend those rights. A step toward
preserving our freedoms would be a full and honest investigation of the
bombing in Oklahoma City. Such an investigation, with the truth revealed,
whatever it may be, would go a long way toward preventing a Reichstag type
event, with its pre meditated consequences, occurring on American soil. Is
there any doubt that such an event is possible and may have already been
attempted?

Charles A. Morse is a nationally syndicated talk show host, the author of
"Thunder Out of Boston" and can be heard on the American Freedom Network at:
http://www.americanewsnet.com/

The Chuck Morse Show can be heard LIVE Monday through Friday 8pm - 10pm EST.

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The Oklahoma City Bombing

PROOF there were additional explosive charges.

Last Update Wed Mar 21 15:31:37 PDT 2001

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Tiffany Bible affidavit

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Tiffany Bible was a paramedic called to the Murrah Building following the bombing. This affidavit reports three important facts. 
1. The ATF were not in the building.
2. That the ATF was already putting out a story that the Murrah Building was bombed "because of Waco" only a few hours after the actual blast and before Tim McVeigh was even arrested.
3. That an unexploded bomb was found attached to a gas line inside the building.

Arlene Blanchard Press Release

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Arlene was a survivor of the bombing. IN this press release, issued at the time of her grand jury appearance, she reveals that she was ordered to keep silent about what she knew of the bombing by the Army under threat of court martial.

DoD Atlantic Command Memo

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This memo, issued 24 hours after the bombing, reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building.

FEMA Situation Report

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This FEMA memo also reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building.

U.S. Forces Command Daily Log

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Again, confirmation of at least two additional bombs which were found in the Murrah Building.

Joe Harp affidavit

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Joe Harp, based on his military explosives experience, refutes the ANFO claim and identifies the additional bombs he sees removed from the building as being military in nature.

Jane Graham Statement

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This statement by a survivor tells of three men he saw in the Murrah Building Garage the week prior to the bombing, and the FBI's obvious disinterest in the matter.

Oklahoma Highway Patrol Radio Logs

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These four pages are the radio log of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.

Note that the reports of additional bombs are confirmed by the fire department.

Virgil Steele Affidavit

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Virgil Steele is the elevator inspector who discovered that the story told by a senior BATF agent about being trapped in a plummeting elevator was a lie. The elevators were in working order except for being without power, and nobody had been trapped in them. Virgil also sees two additional bombs being removed from the building.

 

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