(Terri Schiavo's Husband) Michael Schiavo.
What is Michael Schiavo afraid of?
What is Michael Schiavo
Why does he want his disabled wife (Terri) dead?
Is he afraid she would get rehabilitated
and tell on him?
Was Terri a battered wife?
Thirteen years ago (1990) Terri Schiavo suffered brain damage from unknown causes.
Terri collapsed at their home in 1990 due to what doctors believe was a potassium imbalance, causing her brain to be deprived of oxygen for several minutes. Could she have been a STRANGULATION SURVIVOR?
A vivacious young woman stricken in the very prime of her life with a brain injury that left her profoundly disabled.. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/276fpkqk.asp
One year after Terri's collapse, a bone scan revealed that she had compression fractures and apparent traumatic injuries.
Michael wants Terri's body cremated following her death. Attorneys with the Thomas Moore Legal Center, a pro-life law firm, are worried that doing so would destroy any evidence investigators could use to ascertain whether Terri was a victim of domestic abuse. SEE BONE SCAN http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bone.pdf
A 1991 medical report about Terris condition was not released at the insistence of Mr. Schiavo. Only recently has the information contained in that transcript been available. The unnamed physician who reviewed that nuclear imaging bone scan found evidence of multiple fractures. Somebody worked her over real good.
Allegations prompt call for criminal probe into suspected abuse
One particular allegation that was "very disturbing" to Hennessy and prompted the request for a criminal investigation was lodged by Carla Sauer Iyer, a registered nurse who cared for Terri from about April of 1995 until August of 1996.
Iyer alleged that Terri's blood sugar levels were normally "very stable due to the uniformity of her diet." While she suspects Schiavo of injecting Terri with regular insulin to drive her into hypoglycemic shock, she acknowledged that she has no proof.
"She noted at least five times when Michael Schiavo would come to visit Terri, close the door to her room and then emerge sometime later and leave," Hennessy related. "On those occasions, Iyer had tested Terri's blood sugar, and the level was so low it wasn't even registering, she would administer dextrose to get Terri...out of danger."
Iyer's affidavit detailed the alleged incidents.
They want the suspected violence and subsequent lack of treatment for her breaks to be investigated before Judge Greer rules on whether her feeding tube is removed. http://www.ragged-edge-mag.com/1102/1102ft1.html
In a stunning affidavit sworn , Carla Sauer Iyer, a registered nurse who was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Fla., from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there, testified: "Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, "Michael [Schiavo] would say, 'When is she going to die? Has she died yet?' and 'When is that bitch going to die?'" Iyer charged. "Other statements which I recall him making include, 'Can't anything be done to accelerate her death, won't she ever die?' When she wouldn't die, Michael [Schiavo] would be furious."
Conversely, Iyer said that when she would have to call Schiavo to inform him of a downturn in Terri's condition, Schiavo would be elated.
"Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die," Iyer recalled. "He would blurt out, 'I'm going to be rich,' and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat and going to Europe, among other things."
Michael brought a medical malpractice case in which he promised the jury that he would provide Terri with rehabilitation and care for her for the rest of his life. The jury in 1993 awarded $1.3 million in damages, approximately $750,000 of which was set aside to pay for her care and rehabilitation. But once the money was in the bank, Michael refused to provide Terri with any rehab. Moreover, within months, he had a do-not-resuscitate order placed on her chart.
Had she died then, Michael would have inherited all the money. But he denies having a venal motive, claiming that the trust fund money is now exhausted. If true, this is bitterly ironic. For the past three years he has been in litigation, opposed by Terri's parents and her other relatives. Rather than the funds going to pay for medical therapists to help her, as the jury intended, much of it instead paid lawyers that Michael retained to obtain the court order to end her care.
Michael's second conflict of interest is deeply personal. He is engaged to be married and has had a baby with his fiancée, with another one on the way. The couple would like to marry, but Michael's wife, inconveniently, is still alive.
Judge Greer ordered Terri dehydrated based on dubious testimony from Michael, his brother, and his brother's wife that Terri told them she did not want to be hooked up to tubes--something he never told the malpractice jury when he sought a financial award. To the contrary, the malpractice jury was told that Terri could expect a normal lifespan.
Whatever Terri said or did not say, she certainly never asked to be denied the very treatment that might allow her to eat without medical assistance. Yet, in the ultimate injustice, Judge Greer refuses to permit Terri to receive rehabilitative therapy that could help her relearn to eat by mouth, even though several doctors and therapists have testified under penalty of perjury that she is a good candidate for tube weaning.
True, experts hired by Michael disagree. But so what? This isn't a case where we have to believe one side's medical experts or the other's. The issue can be decided empirically by providing Terri with six months of therapy to see if she improves. But Judge Greer, in a decision that elevated procedure over justice, won't do that because, he ruled, it would mean retrying the case.
In that unreasonable denial, it looked as if Greer might have crossed a crucial line. St. Petersburg attorney Pat Anderson, who represents Terri's blood family, believed that denying food and water and potentially rehabilitative therapy that could have made the feeding tube unnecessary, reeked of discrimination against the disabled. She filed a civil rights lawsuit seeking a federal injunction against the dehydration. Adding to the suit's potential legal heft and credibility: Florida governor Jeb Bush dramatically signed on to the federal case, urging the court in an amicus brief to prevent Terri's dehydration until she received treatment to determine whether she could relearn to take food and water by mouth. But once again, the law turned its back on her. U.S. District Court Judge Richard Lazzara ruled on October 10 that the federal courts had no jurisdiction and dismissed the case.
People are often shocked at how Terri has been treated as somehow less than a fully human person by the legal and medical experts who are determined to see her dead. They shouldn't be. This case illustrates how utterly vulnerable people with profound cognitive disabilities have become in this country. Not only are many routinely dehydrated to death--both the conscious and unconscious--but often the people making decisions to stop food and water, like Michael, have glaring conflicts of interest.
Some of the worst such conflicts come not from family members but from a medical establishment eager to remedy the chronic shortage of organ donors. The literature is brimming with advocacy that death be "redefined" to include a diagnosis of permanent unconsciousness. An article just published in Critical Care Medicine, the journal for doctors who specialize in treating the most seriously ill and injured patients, urges the adoption of an even more radical policy. Drs. Robert D. Troug and Walter M. Robinson, from Harvard Medical School and the Medical Intensive Care Unit at Children's Hospital, Boston, want to discard the "dead donor rule" requiring that vital organ donors die before their organs can be procured, writing: "We propose that individuals who desire to donate their organs and who are either neurologically devastated or imminently dying should be allowed to donate their organs, without first being declared dead."
The authors urge that the relevant question about organ donors should be changed from the current query--is the patient dead?--to, "Are the harms of removing life-sustaining organs sufficiently small that patients or surrogates [e.g., Michael Schiavo] should be allowed to consent to donation?" This is a prescription for moral freefall. Not only do the authors strongly imply that some of us have less value than others but that those so denigrated can be killed for utilitarian ends.
Troug and Robinson attempt to justify their homicidal proposal by claiming that we already take the organs of those declared brain dead but that such patients are really alive. I don't believe this is true, assuming proper diagnosis. But if I am wrong, it is a scandal of the highest order, for it means that society was sold a bill of goods about brain death by bioethicists and organ transplant professionals.
The answer to such a moral travesty would not be to expand medical homicide beyond patients who have suffered a total cessation of brain activity. Rather, it would be to permit doctors to procure organs only from donors who have been declared dead in the traditional manner; because their hearts have ceased beating without hope of restarting.
Advocacy in Critical Care Medicine for discarding the dead donor rule follows on the heels of the Ethics Committee of the Society of Critical Care Medicine's advocacy for legalizing "futile care theory," which would permit doctors to refuse wanted life-sustaining treatment--including "low tech" treatments such as antibiotics--based on the doctor's perception of the "quality" of the patient's life. "Given finite resources," the Ethics Committee stated in 1997, "institutional providers should define what constitutes inadvisable treatment and determine when such treatment will not be sustained."
This plan is currently being implemented. Medical and bioethics journals have reported in recent years that futile care protocols are being adopted quietly by hospitals throughout the country.
The Schiavo case has drawn attention only because her family is in profound disagreement about the care she should receive. If futile care theory takes hold, we may see fewer such cases, if only because the unilateral refusal of treatment will quietly take place without anyone speaking up for the patient.
The sad truth is, many practitioners of bioethics, medicine, and law no longer believe that people like Terri Schiavo are fully human. As a consequence, these patients are being systematically stripped of their fundamental right to life and, perhaps worse, are increasingly looked upon as mere natural resources whose bodies can be plundered for the benefit of others. If it is true that a nation is judged by the way it treats its most vulnerable citizens, a lot is riding on the Schiavo case.
Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. His most recent book is "Forced Exit: The Slippery Slope From Assisted Suicide to Legalized Murder."
Unspun with AnnaZ (& 'Feinie') - w/ guest Bob Schindler, Jr., brother of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.Thurs. Sept. 4, 2003,Rough transcription - minus the first few questions and using a scratchy tape - beginning, sorry. Time is short.
(Terri 'collapsed' at age 26, in 1991)A: What is your belief about what caused this collapse?B: Well, at the time, we weren't certain. I didn't suspect that her husband could possibly be behind it. We were all very concerned with her well being, but it wasn't until recently - last year - that some very disturbing, troubling, medical evidence surfaced - which really raises (questions). (It's) something my father had suspected for a long, long time..a lot longer than I had, that Michael could possibly have been behind Terri's (collapse).A: So that it may have been physically brought on.Now, there are apparently x-rays that show bone fractures and things like that?B: That is correct. That's what the terrible truth (is). That surfaced, I believe, in Nov. of 2002. Bone scans indicated severe trauma throughout Terri's body.A: What have the doctors ... have they said (what) they believe may have caused her to collapse?B: Well, it's never been investigated. That's one of the things..that we're (trying) to get done...(get investigated - give to) ..state attorneys in Florida..We went there.They also have a doctor's testimony, who said that he has only - I forget his name - but he came across only one other person who had the same neck position as Terri and that person's neck position was caused by strangulation...So he persists, and saw the bone scan..very troubled by the new evidence. Along with quite a bit of the circumstantial evidence that supports the notion that Terri could possibly have been strangled.We went to the state attorney's office - Bernie McCabe (sp), in Pinellas County, and, if I remember correctly. they were not very kind about him getting back to us. They told..my father..even if Terri was a victim of strangulation, there's a 4-year statute of limitations which would protect Michael.A: O.K. Perhaps for that, but this attempt to (withhold food) by the judiciary - to continue in the, perhaps, murder of his wife would be something a little bit more current.B: Correct.A: And this is what we're really dealing with now.Now, when this first took place, Terri first collapsed, in those first few days and weeks that followed this incident, she was hospitalized immediately?B: CorrectA: And she's been hospitalized ever since?B: That's correct.A: Now, was she responsive at all in the beginning?B: Yeah, Terri was, uh, she was getting rehab for, uh, I guess for about a year and a half (out) from her accident and she was making progress. We have notes by nurses that state she was. It was limited.A: Has she ever been able to communicate anything that may have happened to her that night?B: She's not at that point where she's able to communicate that well, yet, but she is communicating. She tries all the time to speak. She receives (virtually) no therapy no - since 1991 - so for her to speak is very difficult because she has to be taught how to speak again, but she tries her darndest to..communicate with us.A: (When did) you last see her?B: Last night. Her family, we were in shifts all weekend because Terri was very ill, and I went down last night..A: Because there was an issue with her being moved and your family not really being able to be with her.B: Well, we've always...actually, my little sister, Susie, and I, uh, were actually barred at one time a couple of years ago from seeing Terri for a period of 6 months. Until recently, it's just been my mom, my dad, Susie and myself who have been visiting Terri, and, uh, of course, Monsignor Malinowski (sp)..visited her as well.A: O.k., tell us about that controversy.B: Monsignor Malinowski? When Terri was at the hospital, I guess it was about two weeks ago now, Monsignor went by to visti Terri. He always gives her the annointing of the sick, and, now for close to three years. He went to the hospital by himself, without my parents, and (I guess) Michael (learned of this)..he told the nurses not to allow Monsignor to visit Terri, and Judge (Greely?)...barred...from Terri.A: So now the problem really at it's crux right now, it's kind of a custody battle?B: I guess you could look at it that way. Correct.A: Her husband..won't divorce her, he won't allow her family to be in charge of her, to take care of her..it seems he would prefer her to die.B: He is, he is Hell-bent on, on killing my sister. He is doing everything in his power, I mean everything in his power to see that my sister dies.A: Let's remind them. Let's find some of his motivation. Now...there was, of course,..some innuendo that it was an abusive relationship..there are people who have correlated that that might have been realistically what was going on, and we've had all this time in between and now you have him adament to the point where he's demanding that the law step in and allow her to be sort of be killed off, and die.Now, how these fights that are going against it, what is it..are you trying to (seize) custody or just demand that attention be given? And then there's of course the money motivation.B: We want guardianship back of Terri. We want Michael to be removed as guardian and allow our family to become Terri's caretakers.A: And this battle has been going on for how long..this specific case about guardianship?B: That's been going on since January of 2000.A: Why won't Michael give that up?B: Well, if you ask Michael what is behind it, he claims that he's just doing what Terri wanted. That it's Terri's wish..that's what he said.But we believe that, you know, it could be, well, back when he first initiated the removal, back in Jan. of 2000, uh, there was close to a million dollars in Terri's trust fund that Michael would have inherited upon Terri's death, so it was clearly a money motivation, when this whole thing started.Since then, and I didn't think he planned on this ..lasting in the courts as long as it has, the money has deteriorated. It has gone to his attorney - over a half million dollars, which was, again, which was supposed to be rehabilitation...that's what it was earmarked for, but it has gone to his attorney and now they say that there's not any money left.We're not sure if the motive is, because she can never speak again (unintel..)...A: Let's be honest. Were the collapse to have been an offshoot of an attempted strangulation, I wouldn't want her to speak again either.B: Well, of course not.A: We wouldn't want her to be rehabilitated. Nobody wants to have that finger pointing at them.(Anna asks Bob how he feels about a) "mainstream media that refuses to do any journalism whatsoever when it comes to your sister's story?"B: Well, I got to tell you, it's possibly one of the most frustrating aspects of this case is the lack of responsibility by most, not all, but most of the media in this case. They had to research this case.We're up against an attorney who has initiated a campaign with this right-to-die language that has (conditioned) the public to think that Terri's a lifeless, brain-dead vegetable.A: That's the first story I got, my first impression was.."why shouldn't they allow her to die. And then I saw the video. I was horrified that someone was trying to put her to sleep...When the doctors were asking her (to) open wide her eyes - I was in tears. I have to tell you, Bob, I was just sobbing watching that. I thought, "she's responding. She's listening. She's opening her eyes, and someone wants to yank her feeding tube out so that she can die - excruciating - and she's a totally alive human being?B: I think you understand now why so vehemently his attorney, Michael Schiavo's attorney, tried to have those videos blocked - he tried his hardest to block those videos from being released.A: I'm glad they were. They wer very powerful. Incredibly powerful because you're looking at her. You're seeing a live human being who is able to respond. Who is totally cognizant of what is being said to them and it's horrific. I mean, the Judge has not seen these videos?B: Yeah. We're mystified on why the judge is acting as he is in this case. You know, it was ...the release of the videos on our website that's really started this groundswell. They've only been released now since mid-July and the support we're getting - it's difficult for me to express - to tell you the amount of e-mail, the amount of support - the amount of outrage thae we're now getting.. People are looking at these videos and they are mystified. They are just outraged that the court (is going to) starve to death my sister.A: I'ts incredibly horrible. Those videos came out in July. It's getting to the point where when the charges went out (at) the website we're affiliated with, which is Free Republic.com....Jeb Bush received 27,000 e-mails. That obviously then did propel him to write that letter. Wrote what I thought to be a very well thought out letter to the judges that are involved. Because 27,000 e-mails represents a lot of people.B: It certainly does, and I think Jeb Bush, being a human being, and I'm told there was research done on the case, and anybody that researches this case and discovers what is going on, I thinks as Jeb Bush did, (feels) helpless..wanting to involve (themselves). Because it is, you know it is just mystifying to us how these judges, it is really one judge in particular that has just (visibly) protected Michael (out of this) whole group of people the last 3 years...A: O.k., Now, this is Judge Greer?B: Judge George Greer.A: How much information has your side given him? Has he seen these videos?B: They were at the trial..and, you know, interestingly enough, Judge Greer, in his ruling, even said that, uh, that Terri shows some response, and it was almost like she didn't respond enough for Judge Greer in order for him to rule where she was aware. But if you look at Florida law, to be in a PVS position, you have to show absolutely no, NO response, uh, or awareness of your environment..Terri clearly, that's what our attorney (responded)..Terri clearly, under Florida law, does not fit the PVS category.A: Which is Permanent Vegetative State.B: Permanent Vegetative StateA: RightB: NO response, at all! No response at all to her environment.A: Which is obviously not what we're seeing. Terri has shown more response than the guy who has come out of a 19-year coma in Arkansas - and asked for a Pepsi. Terri is more active than he was.B: I fully agree.A: Is there something sneaky there with Judge Greer..something weird between him and (this) husband?B: It certainly doesn't makes you wonder...about the American justice system. The truth is what the judge says it is. So (much is) in control of this Judge and as long as he is ruling in this case, uh, we're in a lot of trouble - Terri's in a lot of trouble, unfortunately.A: (Anna talks about a seeming nationwide trend of 'judicial tyranny'.)..'judges undermining and overturning the concensus of vast amounts of people..Judges are supposed to be about enforcing the laws that we already have..If we can prove, which obviously you've already been able to do, that Terri is NOT in a 'permanent vegetative state', I just don't understand why we need to continue...I don't know. It just seems there's got to be something there.B: The same Judge refused to let (we asked) 3 doctors testify that Terri's able to swallow food, which means she can eat..We went to Judge Greer's court and asked him - we had a hearing - we asked the Judge to please give Terri, allow Terri a simple swallow test to see if she can eat. A swallowing test, to see if she has the capability of eating would take less than a day. He denied it.A: Now, has he met Terri? Has he seen Terri himself?B: Only through the videos. He's never gone down to visit her.A: That's interesting, because he wants to preside and decide over whether she should live or die, but has decided not to go look her in the eye first?B: That's absolutely correct.A: There's something wrong right there.B: Well, you would think he would want to go down and see for himself the person that he's ruling on, just how 'brain dead' she really is.A: I would.B: I would, myself, too - to have a clear conscience. Maybe he doesn't want to go down for that reason. He would see how alive and how responsive Terri is.A: And this brings us to controversy no....which is, of course, the Catholic Bishops' Conference. ...that are all screaming about people that are on death row, and yet, have not accorded Terri the same respect as convicted murderers.B: I teach at a Catholic School here in Florida, and Bishop Lynch (sp) is really my direct superior. He is the head of the Diocese of St. Petersburg and he is not, 'til recently - I'm talking the last 3 weeks - spoke(n) out on behalf of Terri, never called my parents...he could have prayers for my family and Terri. He has remained completely silent over 3 years. I think caved into the pressure, public pressure...Our family met with him right after the trial. I've had conversations with him in my school, recently. Before he came out with a statement..I think he tried to avoid me. So, but I have to say that he has come out recently and he has come to Terri's defense. I would have liked to have seen it (be) a stronger statement, and I think it's sad that it took him this lonmg to do something, and at least he has, finally.A: Now, you said that you saw Terri last night. DOes she know? From what I've seen, it seems like she's kind of trapped inside her body that's not really functioning any more. When you talk to her, what kind of clarity do you see in her eyes? Does she understand when you're talking to her?B: Well, you know, that's what's so sad. My heart breaks when I go in there. Terri's been confined to this room for 12 years. To see her just being neglected the way she has, with absolutely no therapy, it's a miracle as responsive as she is today with absolutely no stimulation. The only stimulation that she gets is from the nurses and my family members - speak to her, do whatever we can to help when we're visiting.It's hard for me to explain how, how responsive and how, you know, alive Terri is when we go in and see her, and, again, the notion that they're going to starve my sister to death seems...(unintel.) reponsive..(unint.).A: Jane Chastain wrote a column today in World Net Daily which, I'm assuming you read.B: I certainly did. It was wonderful.A: It was wonderful in an absolutely horrific kind of way, though.B: That last sentence, the way (she) framed that last sentence..20,000 petitions have been signed, and only 200 million more to go.A: Exactly. She fully described what it takes to die from being starved for two weeks. It's horrific..what a person goes through.B: I say wonderful in the sense that I'm glad this case is getting attention now. Every time I see an article written about Terri in this light, it makes me..I'm appreciative of the people speaking out on behalf of Terri's life.A: And I'm appreciative of the family who is fighting so long and so hard for her in the face of ..even now, judicial madness.Jeb Bush did write this letter which I did read. Summer, a poster on Free Republic, received a full copy of the letter and posted it for people to read, I guess the truth of it is it only has a certain amount of weight to it.What really can we do at this point? Would just his showing his interest - is that enough? Is there something else that may be done still at this point?B: Well, you know, I'm not 100% sure what Gov. Bush can do at this point. I'm not sure that he can intervene any more than he already did with the Judge. I don't know. Maybe the appearance of bias. I don't know if he's in a position to do that. Someone told me that he has to be appointed in order to be removed for bias,a nd Judge Greer seems to be an elected official.A: You have to prove bias.If someone is accorded 1.3 million dollars in order to take care of someone else, and they, instead, spend that money on a lawyer to try and kill the person they're supposed to take care of, is there a lawsuit there? This is obviously misappropriation of those funds - what they were designated for. Is there anything there?B: Let me tell you, we have looked into every aspect of this case. We tried to track down the insurance company that was settled back in 1992, to let them know of the fraud involved, and we found out that they had been bought out like 2 or 3 times, not even in business anymore.We have looked into, as I said, almost every aspect we could possibly look into and I got to tell you - this Judge has completely insulated Michael. This Judge has put an order out to kill Terri and ..it has completely insulated Michael from any wrongdoing.A: What happens on Sept.11?B: Well, from my understanding, the Judge (will) set a date for the feeding (to be stopped). He could set (it) for the next day. He could set it for two years from now. But our attorney is going to go in there and try (her) hardest to get the Judge to change his mind.A: So what can people do to help Terri? Because there are a lot of people, Bob, that want to help her, a lot of people that want to stop this from happening - that are just as horrified - well, obviously they can't be, you're her brother, but are as horrified and overwrought as one can be without tthat sort of fillial relationship.What is it that we can inspire people to do to help this situation?B: Did you see the affadavits of the nurses? They just came out the last couple of weeks..These nurses were absolutely petrified of Michael..I wish they would have come forwarda earlier, but, never the less, their affidavits are extremely disturbing, to say the least.A: Why would they be afraid of Michael? Who is this guy? Why are they so afraid of him? ..He has pictures of everybody naked,...I've decided.B: Michael's 6'6" - probably 260 pounds, and he, he's very intimidating physically. Uh, I think he bullies girls around as much as he can. I think he intimidates women.A: There's 'concealed carry' laws there in Florida.But, seriously, right now there is a big fight rught now on FR to call Judge Greer and to give him a piece of everyone's mind.B: The problem with Terri in this case, is his rulings have gone completely, you know, on Michael's behalf.Bernie McCabe (sp), a local state attorney. We think now that the nurses coming forward - there's enough evidence now so he (could) launch a criminal investigation into this case.A: O.K., that would be nice. He's someone we could call.B:Right.A: Bernie McCabe, write it down.B: He has chosen not to get involved in this case. Why? Why isn't there enough information for him to investigate? What's going on? It certainly seems. in a lot of people's minds, that there could possibly be some criminal wrongdoing - at the very least.A: This is what I'm saying. Even if we can't prove, or statute of limitations - what happened 13 1/2 years ago, we certainly have, and I say 'we' in the collective 'we' - have certainly enough now where a criminal investigation on a whole bunch of different levels.You said - the money, the restricting of rehabilitation services - all of this stuff - it just seems like a whole body ...so, let's call him, call Judge Greer, who else? Who else can we bug? They're making your sister's life miserable, Bob. We want to make their life miserable.B: I guess the, uh, Charlie Crist - the Florida State Attorney (AG) - launch his own investigation if he felt as though there was enough evidence to do so.Again, we feel as though there is.You know, one of those things, Michael petitioned to have Terri's body cremated immediately upon her death.A: Lovely. We like that. That always seems so innocent.B: Oh, yeah, and he just did that back in this past year - petitioned Judge Greer.A: Well, we have to prevent that (Feinie, I think, says 'that doesn't send up a red flag or anything, does it?!')Yeah, we have to prevent that from happening.B: I certainly hope so. If the petitions inspired Gov. Bush to do something, maybe the more people we get outraged by this case it will inspire someone else to want to get involved.A: I think that we need to, and I (trust) that there were people that thought, 'Oh, I should write a letter,' and then they heard, 'oh, wekk they got 27,000 - onus is off me.' You know what? I think that's the wrong approach.I think we need to double and triple and quadruple those numbers 'til they realize that, you know something, it's just not acceptable when there is someone who is saying "I will take care of this person", "I will do what is necessary to help this person out,"...why then force their dying?B: I can't, for the life of me. There is no common sense to this case at all. It keeps me up at night. I don't know how this could be happening. I just, I have no idea how tis could be happening....A: What is it with the Florida courts?B: I think after this case is over, I'm ready to move elsewhere. I don't want to end up with any kind of physical problems in Florida.A: That sort of thing begins to spread.B: You know where the "right-to-die" movement has us?...We're actually sitting here, and we're talking about 'Terri's got to prove her awareness.' Know what I mean? And not just Terri, all disabled people. They have to prove awareness. The issue here is, nobody should have to prove their awareness. We're having discourse over when it is o.k. and when it isn't o.k. to starve people to death. It wasn't that long ago (that) starving people to death was considered barbaric.A: It's still considered barbaric.B: It's become (acceptable) now.A: So is abortion, and that's legal.B: Right. We are taking human life ...just like what happened back in the 1930s.A: With your sister, instead of saying, "This is a woman with the potential to regain her functions" we call her PVS. ('Feinie?' : "she's a vegetable.) She's not even human anymore, so, therefore, we put this epithet on people and reduce them to totally demeaning (manner) and I think it's horrible.I thank you for joining us tonight. My heart just goes out to your family....A: This is what we'll do: have people call the Judge, call Bernie McCabe, Charlie Crist, ..and we're going to do everything that we can to help save your sister.B: I'm never going to be able to thank everybody. It upsets me very much. I'm getting ... hundreds of e-mails daily. I can't keep up. (I want) to e-mail all these people back. Tell them that I read their e-mail, and you have no idea how much we appreciate your support. And I just wish there was some way - I want your listeners to know, that my family appreciates every single e-mail. If we don't respond to them in a short amount of time, please know that we are reading them...A: Now, the website is www.terrisfight.org?B: That's correct (spells).A: We're going to do everything we can to help you. It's a week until the hearing and we're going to make (his) life as miserable as can be done in a week's time.And, just, God bless you, Bob, and all of your family. I thank you so much just for having that much love for your sister that you've been fighting so hard. It's an awesome thing.MICHAEL SCHIAVO HAS VIOLATED over a dozen Florida Statutes while acting as Terri's legal guardian. The following encompass some of the infractions; (in no particular order)
Ordered the dehydration and starvation of Terri Schindler Schiavo
Ignored Governor Bush's Executive Order to immediately stay withholding of nutrition and hydration from Terri and "immediately provide nutrition and hydration to Theresa Schiavo"...
Ordered that a DNR(do not resuscitate) order be placed in her record
Fathering a child out-of-wedlock
Breach of Fiduciary Duty
Had not taken mandatory guardianship classes until of late
Has not filed guardianship plan with court for past 3 years - last one filed listed
"nothing" under plan of action for Terri's care
Moved Terri to Hospice without court approval or knowledge and without 2 physicians diagnosing Terri as "terminal"
Medical and nursing care abuse and neglect
Denied and obstructed provisions for meeting physical, emotional, psycho/social
spiritual and rehabilitative needs
Has not had Rehabilitative Therapy since l991
Denied or severely restricted Terri's parents, brother and sister from visiting and
having normal interaction and relationships with Terri as well as other family and
On two occasions ordered caretakers not to treat Terri for potentially fatal infections
Consistently withheld medical information and data from Terri's family which violated a
specific court order of l996
Has used her medical fund money from malpractice suit (1 million dollars) to pay his
Neglected to inquire about or act to seek care when a bone scan revealed lumbar spine compression fracture , other fractures and apparent traumatic injuries
Stopped Monsisgnor Thaddeus Malanowski from giving Terri Holy Communion//Viaticum when she was being dehydrated and starved
Guardian Ad Litem report of Richard Pearse in l998 was ignored or rejected
Medicare payment for Terri for a period of time at hospice
Bill at Hospice remains unpaid
Terri's SSDI is being used by Husband
[end of action request and information about Michael's violation of Terri's rights and
violation of many laws and regulations]
"On the Record" with Greta van Susteren"
Transcript of Interview with Dr. Michael Baden, a Forensic Pathologist from NY
Greta: Dr. Baden, a potassium imbalance, let's first talk about if you have a
potassium deficiency, can that cause the condition that Terri Schiavo has?
Baden: Um, can, but unlikely. Potassium is very interesting. It's probably the most lethal poison we have when it's injected rapidly, and that's why it's the poison that kills people, capital punishment by lethal injection. And it stops the heart from beating properly-too much of it. But also too little of it., hypo-potassium, can also cause the heart to stop beating properly and lead to lack of blood flow to the brain and death of brain cells by lack of oxygen. But that's very unusual, Greta, extremely unusual.
Greta: A normal healthy woman, I assume, would have no reason, for instance, to take potassium supplements unless, perhaps, she's on a diuretic or some other medication that would cause a potassium depletion. Is that right?
Baden: That's correct. That's right.
Greta: Is there any explanation then in your mind, and I realize you were not her team physician, but why would a woman at her age have a potassium imbalance?
Baden: Extremely unusual unless she had certain kinds of diseases, which she doesn't have. She was in her twenties. The reason that she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe 5 minutes or 8 minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain. That can happen because the heart stops for 5 or 8 minutes, but she had a healthy heart, from what we can see. The other thing, though..I'm sorry Greta?
Greta: No, go ahead.
Baden: Yeah, your staff has provided me with a bone scan that you guys obtained ah from her initial admission in 1991 to the hospital. And that bone scan describes her as having a head injury. That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan. And a head injury can cause, lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now, and it does show evidence that there are other injuries, other bone fractures, that on healing-stage, so that....
Greta: So, let me back up a second. Head injury. Could she have had, could she have passed out from a potassium imbalance causing a falling head injury? Is that what you're talking about, or are you suggesting some pre-existing head injury to her passing out?
Baden: Something totally different. That it's extremely rare for a 20-year-old to have a cardiac arrest from low potassium who has no other diseases. So the other issue is could it have been due to some other cause, which is raised by the family, has to be looked at.
Greta: Alright, other injuries and bone injuries, what does that suggest to you?
Baden: Some kind of trauma. The trauma can be from an auto accident, the trauma can be from a fall, or the trauma can be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991 when these findings were found, and..
Greta: They were fresh.
Baden: Maybe there were, Maybe they were investigated by police at that time.
Greta: Alright. Dr. Michael Baden, thank you.
Baden: Thank you, Greta.
[end of transcript excerpt from show]
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
about Terri's collapse
Celebrated forensic pathologist says 1990 injuries should be investigated
Posted: October 26, 2003
5:45 p.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A world-renowned forensic pathologist with over 40 years experience as a medical examiner is challenging the official version of early events in the Terri-Schindler Schiavo case, providing the parents of the brain-disabled woman with powerful ammunition in their battle to save their daughter's life from her court-ordered starvation death.
Interviewed on the Fox News Channel, Dr. Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.
Baden explained to host Greta van Susteren it was unlikely for a woman of Terri's age at the time to have a potassium imbalance, unless she had certain types of diseases, which she didn't have.
"Too little potassium can cause the heart to stop beating properly and lead to lack of blood flow to the brain and death of brain cells by lack of oxygen, but that's very unusual, Greta, extremely unusual," he said.
That Terri's heart was healthy would rule out the likelihood of cardiac arrest, he said.
"The reason she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe five minutes or eight minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain," said Baden. "That can happen because the heart stops for 5 or 8 minutes, but she had a healthy heart, from what we can see."
Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991at a hospital that describes her as having a head injury.
"A head injury can cause, can lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now," he continued, adding it showed evidence of other injuries, including bone fractures.
Something totally different
Van Susteren asked if he were suggesting a potassium imbalance caused a fall that led to a head injury, or perhaps some "pre-existing head injury [led] to her passing out."
"Something totally different," he answered. Because cardiac arrests triggered by low potassium are so rare, "the other issue is: could it have been due to some other cause, which is raised by the family. [That] has to be looked at."
Baden said the injuries suggested some kind of trauma: "The trauma can be from an auto accident; the trauma can be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991 when those findings were fresh," adding, "Maybe they were. Maybe they were investigated by the police at that time."
The Fox News interview with Michael Baden and information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.
Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story
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Constitutional showdown brewing over Terri's Law
Terri snatched from hospital
Florida legislators move to rescue Terri
Will 'Terri's Bill' save her life now?
Terri Schiavo denied Last Rites
Gov. Bush 'fails' Terri
Abuse report filed for Terri
Desperate parents petition High Court
Lawyers: Bush can step in for Terri
Starvation begins for Terri Schiavo
Husband protests video showing alert Terri
Terri Schiavo wants to live
No intervention for Schiavo
Joni Eareckson Tada joins vigil for Terri Schiavo
Federal judge says Terri Schiavo must die
Hearing today on woman scheduled to starve
Prayer vigil for Terri Schiavo
Bush steps in for Schindler-Schiavo
Florida AG intervenes in Schiavo lawsuit
Order signed for starvation of disabled woman
Disabled woman wins reprieve
Another 9-11 date with death
Federal judge considers Schiavo case
Federal Court grants emergency hearing in Schiavo case
Attorney: Jeb Bush letter only a 'good first step'
Gov. Bush's plea for Schindler-Schiavo rejected
Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo
Legal setbacks clear way for Schiavo starvation
Schindler-Schiavo on 'death row'
Husband bars priest from brain-damaged wife
Brain-damaged woman hospitalized
Fight for life bombshell: Terri trying to talk
Petition drive launched for Terri Schiavo
why can't he get a divorce but give up custody to her parents, who obviously want to see her live?
Because he is a major creep! He is not Terri's loving "husband". He has been living with another woman Jody Centzone for the last 10 years. He has children with Jodi. What he has done to this family is beyond immoral. I only hope that one day he suffers as much pain as he has caused.
35 posted on 09/21/2003 3:33 PM PDT by blueriver
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Where Has the Money Gone?
From the St Petersburg Times. A look at the spending down of Terri's medical fund.
Michael Schiavo Is Being Charged With Perjured Testimony and Fraud On the Court
Theresa Schiavo, her mother & Father. 1984
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