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UNITED NATIONS WARS
The following extract from a recorded debate between Congressman Richard L.
Ottinger, Director, United States Committee on the United Nations and
Archibald K Roberts, Lt. Col. AUS, ret., Director, Committee to Restore the
Constitution, at the Little Theater, west Chester County Center, white
Plains, NY, 26 Sept 1969, reveals the terrible power of the United Nations
Security Council to commit U.S. Military forces to battle, anywhere in the
world. Colonel Roberts' testimony, and rebuttal to Rep. Ottinger's opening
remarks, explain how a Federal policy of "perpetual war for perpetual peace
generated no-win wars in Korea and Viet Nam. This same UN control over US
military forces may in todayŪs climate of political crisis commit a new
generation of Americans to a UN no-win war in Africa.
COL. ROBERTS' TESTIMONY
Congressman Ottinger, honored guests, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I
hold for the prosecution. During the next 20 minutes, the prosecution will
attempt to prove the following charges against the United Nations
Number 1- That the United Nations is a subversive organization.
Number 2- That vital powers of government held in trust for the American
people have been illegally transferred to the United Nations Organization
in violation of the prohibitions of the Constitution.
Number 3- That the United Nations Charter was foisted upon the American
people to serve those who seek to overthrow the Constitution and to coerce
American citizens into a Socialist animal farm.
Consonant with facts presented in official documents, and we will use some
of these official documents, and of public testimony by elected officials
and others, I intend to use the war in Vietnam to prove these accusations
and to expose the real objectives of the United Nations and those who
promote its cause. During the course of my indictment of the United Nations
it might be well to keep in mind the following axiom.
Wars under whatever name which do reduce the political power of an
officially named enemy of the American people, and which do not increase
the political power of the United States, must In the end reduce the
political power of the United States and thus serve the secret objectives
of a concealed enemy.
Let us begin our introduction for the prosecution by calling on the
testimony of Lyndon B. Johnson, who was then President of the United
States. Mr. Johnson told the American people on 13 July 1965 that their
soldier sons were dying in South Vietnam because of our commitment to the
South East Asia Treaty Organization; SEATO. During a White House news
conference on this date, 13 July 1965, President Johnson stated, and I
quote, "I think it is well for us to remember that three Presidents have
made the pledge for this nation; that the Senate has ratified the SEATO
treaty by a vote of 82-1, pledging the United States to come to the aid of
any nation on their request who are parties to that treaty." Then President
Johnson went on to say, "We expect to keep that commitment; our national
honor is at stake."
Four years later, nearly to the day, President Richard M. Nixon, was to use
the same words in describing our commitment to the SEATO treaty.
On Monday, 29 July 1969, in Bangcock, Thailand, which of course is
headquarters for the SEATO organization, Mr. Nixon reiterated his pledge to
the SEATO treaty in these words, "We are determined," Nixon testified on
worldwide television, "to honor our commitment to the SEATO treaty, the
Southeast Asia Treaty."
"Of course neither Mr. Nixon nor his predecessors have admitted that the
Southeast Asia Treaty, a treaty which our sons honor in blood and agony,
was framed under the provisions of Articles 52 and 53 of the United Nations
Charter. As we shall see; however, SEATO is a regional arrangement, a
regional arrangement formed to deal with matters relating to the
maintenance of international peace and security, consistent with the
purposes and principles of the United Nations.
The prosecution will prove that the no-win war in Vietnam is secretly a
United Nations war and that it is being conducted to serve the purposes and
principles of the United Nations. We will also reveal why this strange war
has clearly failed to reduce the political power of the Communist enemy.
Instead this war has increased the political power of the United Nations
and thus serves the secret objectives of a concealed enemy.
The first exhibit for the prosecution is "The Story of SEATO," a booklet
published by the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization. This is a copy.
Anybody can get a copy of this booklet, "The Story of SEATO." On page 5 of
"The Story of SEATO," we find the following declaration, and I read: "The
members of SEATO have chosen a collective defense system under the
authority of the Charter of the United Nations." SEATO in this statement of
purpose, and it is a statement of purpose, asserts that it is an agency, an
extension, of the United Nations organization.
Now, let us join this information, that is the declaration of the SEATO
people, let's take this information and join it with Exhibit number 2, for
the prosecution; the SEATO treaty itself. In the back of the same book we
find the SEATO treaty, The Southeast Asia Treaty, sometimes called the
Manila Pact because it was signed in Manila on 8 September 1954. In these
articles, and I am going to quote apart of some of them, we find the
following information, "The party," says Article 1 of SEATO, "undertakes as
set forth in the Charter of the United Nadons, to settle any international
dispute in which they may become involved by peaceful means, and to
refrain," and listen to this," and to refrain in their international
relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with
the purposes of the United Nations. Well, I would say that American
casualty figures in this interminable war in Viet Nam is evidence that the
military force used in Vietnam is applied, is applied in a manner
consistent with the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
As a matter of fact, the United States Ambassador to Vietnam, Elsworth
Bunker, made this point crystal clear in his personal testimony before the
public on this televised show. "It seems to me that what we are doing in
Vietnam is to make credible our commitments under the United Nations and
under SEATO treaty to resist aggression. We have made a commitment."
Doesn't that sound familiar?
Unfortunately, Ambassador Bunker failed to identity the UN agency which is
charged with conducting this Viet Nam war under the United Nations. But the
information to fill this important vacuum is found under Article 4 of the
SEATO Treaty. Again I quote, "Measures, taken under this paragraph shall be
immediately reported to the Security Council of the United Nations."
However, let's pinpoint the UN Articles that make credible our commitment
under the United Nations, because you see the Security Council is the
war-waging arm of the United Nations.
To make credible this commitment, let's quote again, as Mr. Bunker so
lucidly explained on Meet the Press, let us now present Exhibit number 3
for the prosecution, the United Nations Charter.
We will find, as predicted in "The Story of SEATO," that the authority for
the construction of this UN SEATO collective defense system is revealed in
Chapter 8 of the United Nations Charter. chapter 8 is called regional
arrangements, and we will find that a comparison of UN and SEATO articles
also shows that the quotations that I made a moment ago from SEATO are in
fact faithful duplication of the United Nations Charter, this is the Bible
of the One Worlders, the Constitution for world government.
"Nothing in the present charter,Ó says Article 52, "Nothing in the present
charter precludes the existence of regional arrangements, providing that
such arrangements or agencies are consistent with the purposes and
principles of the United Nations."
Where have we heard that before? Why in the Charter of the SEATO Treaty.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is immediately apparent that Article 1 of SEATO
exactly reproduces the authority of Article 52 of the United Nations
Charter. Don't you see? In the same way Article 4 of SEATO similarly
reflects the provisions of Article 54 of the United Nations Charter.
Again I quote, "The Security Council,' commands Article 54, "shall at all
times be kept fully informed of activities undertaken or in contemplation
under regional arrangements." Undertaken or in contemplation. This means,
of course, that US military operations žundertaken or in contemplationÓ in
Vietnam are first submitted to the UN Security Council for their approval.
Ladies and gentlemen, the evidence permits but one conclusion, just one
conclusion. The strategy of žperpetual war for perpetual peace,Ó a strategy
which sends Americans into battle with neither the promise nor the hope of
victory, is the strategy of the United Nations. It is United Nations
strategy, don't you see? As a matter of fact, these UN war making powers,
and the usurpation of governmental authority which permits it, was
dramatically illustrated by James Reston in his column of 13 July 1967,
which was entitle Isolations Echoes by US Move in Congo. Do you remember
when we sent troops to the Congo under the United Nations?
I quote Mr. Reston, "The administration's position is that it is committed
under the Charter of the United Nations, under various treaties and under
the Truman Doctrine, to do whatever it can to maintain peace anywhere in
"You realize, of course, that the real objective of these 'no-win wars' is
not international peace and security as UN supporters are led to believe.
The true purpose and principle of these UN military adventures is to
manipulate the United States armed forces under the United Nations Security
Council. To force all of the nations of the world into line and to deliver
them up to a one world government. That's what it's all about.
For proof I invite your attention to Chapter 5 of the United Nations
Charter, headed the "Security Council Functions and Powers."
I quote, "In order to ensure prompt and effective action by the United
Nations, its members confer upon the Security Council, primary
responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security."
Again, Article 25, "The members of the United Nations agree to accept and
carry out the decisions of the Security Council."
In simple language, ladies and gentlemen, these two UN articles transfer
the power of self defense given to the Congress by the sovereign states
into a blanket authority to send American soldiers into battle anywhere in
the world at the direction of the Security Council of the United Nations.
Now, the Constitution is very specific about the powers of keeping peace
and waging war. Nowhere does the Constitution authorize the transfer of
these powers to an international agency. The prosecution has therefore
established the fact that the Senate ratification of the United Nations
Treaty on 28 July 1945 is in violation of the Constitution of the United
States. Being illegal it must be put down.
Perhaps the members of this jury have wondered why the wars in Korea and
Vietnam saw the outpouring of vast resources of US men and material in a
land war without a formal declaration of war by the Congress of the United
States. Well, Article 39 of the United Nations Charter explains why, and
more importantly why the UN Security Council can at any time force this
nation and the entire population of the United States into a military
posture without the consent of Congress.
Again I quote from the U.N. Charter, Article 39, "The Security Council
shall determine the existence of any threat to the peace, or breach of the
peace or act of aggression. And it shall decide which measures shall be
taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore
international peace and security."
Articles 41 and 42 spell out the full authority and extent of UN military
action, authorizing the use of air, sea and land forces. I'm quoting, "The
use of air, sea and land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore
international peace and security." Additionally, the military muscle needed
to enforce these Security Council edicts is provided by usurped sovereign
power as spelled out in Articles 43 and 46 of the United Nations Charter.
These UN laws, Articles 43 and 46, order "the transfer of armed forces,
assistance and facilities from member nations," we are a member nation, "to
the UN Security Council for use as the Security Council may determine in
its application of armed force anywhere in the world.
To give legal coloration to this breach of public trust, the Congress of
the United States, on 26 Sept 1961, just eight years ago tonight ratified
Public Law 87297, the "Arms Control and Disarmament Act." This unbelievable
legislation purports to legalize the transfer of the United States Military
establishment, and American citizens in uniform, to a United Nations world
army. Members of the jury, fellow Americans, your sons now serving in
Vietnam, are by UN Charter definition, a United Nations world army, and
they take their orders from the United Nations Security Council "consistent
with the principles and purposes of the United Nations."
As final proof in the cast for the prosecution, I read from House Joint
Resolution Number 1145, called the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution."
"The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution is often quoted as Congress's approval to
commit Americans to the Vietnam war. This is what the resolution says.
"This resolution (Section 3) shall expire when the President shall
determine that the peace and security of the area is reasonable assured by
international conditions created by the United Nations." By the United
Ladies and gentlemen, I respectfully submit that the prosecutions' case
against the United Nations is now legally established.
The prosecution has demonstrated that the Articles of the United Nation's
Charter amend by deceit and subterfuge the Constitution of the United
States, in a manner not sanctioned by Article 5 of the Constitution. The
United Nations is therefore a subversive organization and it is a threat to
the freedom of persons and property guaranteed to the people by the
The prosecution has demonstrated that the authority to commit Americans to
battle anywhere in the world has been surreptitiously transferred from the
Congress of the United States to the Security Council of the United
Nations. Therefore vital powers of government held in trust for the
American people have been illegally usurped by the organization of the
United Nations in violation of the Constitution.
The prosecution has demonstrated that the real but concealed objectives of
the United Nations organization is to place the military power of the
United States at the disposal of the United Nations Security Council, to
force all of the nations into line and to deliver them up to a one world
The United Nations was therefore foisted upon the American people to serve
those who seek to overthrow the Constitution and to coerce our citizens
into a Socialist animal farm.
In this brief indictment of the United Nations, the prosecution has also
revealed that, as the political power of the United States is dissipated in
no-win military ventures all over the globe, the political power of the
United Nations and those who serve and promote its purposes is increased.
In summation, the prosecution declares that the United States should not
participate or encourage the development of the United Nations. To the
contrary, the prosecution claims that it is the clear and urgent duty of
all federal office holders to dismantle the United Nations Organization in
consonance with their oath to, "defend and preserve this Constitution."
The prosecution rests.
COLONEL ROBERTS REBUTTAL TO REPRESENTATIVE OTTINGER'S OPENING REMARKS
The Honorable Ottinger made some splendid points in support of world
government in his presentation. I believe that he may have impressed you
with the urgency for such world government, protecting us from a nuclear
holocaust. Because this was his introduction to his talk; that in order to
avoid a nuclear holocaust, which is today's example of international wars,
we must embrace world government under the United Nations, or a similar
agreement. I think we are familiar with this technique of harassment and
terror. It has been used against us for a good many years. I don't think
that it is necessary to refute the fact that there is a nuclear potential.
But, let us keep in mind who actually controls the nuclear trigger on both
sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
I believe also that Congressman Ottinger attempted to paint the United
Nations as the "good guy." For purposes of illustration, on the reverse
side of this coin, we ought to identify some of these "good guys." And
since I talked about the Security Council, I would like to identify some of
the good guys in the Security Council. In fact, specifically, I would like
to identify the Under Secretary for Political and Security Council Affairs
in the United Nations.
The Under Secretary post is actually the supreme director of the Security
Council. He is the permanent member, whereas the President of the Security
Council rotates, as you know, every year. But the permanent official,
selected by the United Nations Secretary, is the Under Secretary for
Political and Security Council Affairs.
These are the men who have held this post since the beginning of the United
1946-49,Arkady Sobolev, USSR;
1949-53, Constantine Zinchenko, USSR;
1953-54 Ilya Tcherychcv, USSR;
1955-57, Dragoslav Protich, Yugoslavia;
1958-59, Anatoly Dobrynin, USSR;
1960-62, Geory Arkadev, USSR;
1962-63, Eugeney D. Kiselev, USSR;
1963-65, Vladimir P. Suslov, USSR;
1965-67, A.E. Nesterenko, USSR;
1968-present, Leonid N. Kutakov, USSR
These are the "good guys."
The Congressman also mentioned that in as much as we have the veto power we
are not bound to any distasteful decisions of the Security Council, I would
like to point out that we no longer have the veto power in the Security
Council. This was taken away from us by the "Uniting for Peace Resolution,"
passed by the General Assembly in 1950. At that point the General Assembly
assumed all of the prerogatives and powers which formerly were limited to
the Security Council therefore effectively circumventing U.S. veto power in
the Security Council.
I would also like to point out that the Congressman stated that UNESCO and
its humanitarian activities is of considerable pride to the United Nations.
Many of us realize that UNESCO is the propaganda arm of the United Nations.
Its purpose is to convince the American people that the United Nations is
the hope of the world. We know that Jesus Christ is the hope of the
For what its worth;
Robby Noel (American Freedom Network on satellite) just mentioned that
the Bank of England just made a call for all it's leased gold to be
These guys represent the epitome of insider knowledge, and as such, any
call by them for something like this is going to have an impact on the
world economy. I believe "second tier" investors are going to quietly try
to protect themselves for a time before the significance of this move
becomes generally known.
Many investment houses have suddenly downgraded each other.
Rumor has it that big Al Greenspan is going to bail -- presumably while
bailing is good.
'Seems to me that the time has come to pay careful attention folks
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