WACO: GAO REPORT - DOD/FBI Ammo


Saturday, 21-Oct-00 19:19:35

24.14.28.77 writes:

National Security and International Affairs Division
DOD/FBI Ammo @ Waco
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/149495.html
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: DOD/FBI Ammo @ Waco
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:02:11 EDT
From: "Joe Burton" rmbrwaco@hotmail.com
To: rmbrwaco@hotmail.com

20 October 2000
Source: [3 pages.]
National Security and International Affairs Division
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/ns00240r.pdf
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GAO

United States General Accounting Office
National Security and International Affairs Division
Washington, DC 20548

B-286114

August 21, 2000

The Honorable Dan Burton
Chairman, Committee on
Government Reform
House of Representatives

Subject: Department of Defense: Military Assistance During the Branch
Davidian Incident

Dear Chairman Burton:

As you requested, we have reviewed the July 26, 2000, Department of Defense
(DOD) response to your inquiry regarding the Army's delivery of 250 rounds
of high explosive ammunition to agents of the FBI during their standoff with
the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas, in 1993. As you know, we issued a
report on the military assistance provided to law enforcement agencies at
Waco.1 That report dealt with the requirements for authorizing military
support to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and the Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as well as the type, costs, and reimbursements
of the military support that was provided. One of the items we identified in
our report as being provided to the FBI was 250 rounds of high explosive,
40mm grenade launcher ammunition.

Department of Defense: Military Assistance Provided at the Branch Davidian
Incident (GAO/NSIAD/OSI-99-133, Aug. 26, 1999).

Specifically, you asked DOD to explain the purported delivery of these high
explosive rounds. In your letter to us, you asked whether we would change
any of the findings or opinions expressed in our August 1999 report based on
DOD's response. To respond to your inquiry, we reviewed DOD's response in
relation to relevant documents gathered during the course of our earlier
review.

RESULTS OF OUR ANALYSIS

From our review of DOD's response to your inquiry and related documents, we
concluded that our August 26, 1999 report remains an accurate reflection of
our findings and does not need to be modified. The relevant findings in our
August report were that (1) the ammunition in question qualified as military
support for a civilian agency and the Army should be reimbursed as required
by the Economy Act and (2) the Army was not reimbursed by the FBI for the
40mm grenade launcher ammunition (200 practice rounds, 50 illumination
rounds, and 250 high explosive rounds). Nothing in DOD's response to you
indicated that DOD had any information to refute our report. In addition to
this overall conclusion, we would like to offer the following clarifying
comments on two aspects of DOD's response to your inquiry: (1) whether the
high explosive ammunition was, in fact, provided to the FBI and (2) whether
it was fired at the ranges at Fort Hood, Texas, when the FBI was present.

On the first point, DOD said that it had not been able to definitively
determine whether the high explosive rounds were provided to the FBI. This
finding was based on individuals' recollections of what occurred rather than
on official records or personal notes. While we cannot conclusively prove
that the Army provided high explosive ammunition to the FBI, the Army's
official documentation indicates that it may have been provided. For
example:

Although DOD referred to the July 30, 1993 Memorandum of Understanding
between the Army and the FBI as "a preliminary effort to create a master
list of items provided to the FBI", it nonetheless used the list as the
basis for establishing the cost of items to be reimbursed, including the
cost of ammunition. Also, the accompanying July 23, 1993, Army memorandum
transmitting this document for approval stated that among other costs to be
reimbursed was "ammunition ($5K)."2 This cost was also referenced in the
attachment to the agreement. The Commanding General, Garrison Commander, and
Chief of Staff at Fort Hood and several other Army officials concurred with
the Memorandum of Understanding, as noted in the transmittal memo.

2 The actual amount for the 40mm ammunition was $ 5,066, which the Army
accounted for as follows: 50 illumination rounds, $1,242; 200 target
practice rounds, $346; and 250 high explosive rounds, $3,478.

On January 23, 1996, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special
Operations and Low Intensity Conflict provided the Chairman of the
Subcommittee on National Security, International Affairs and Criminal
Justice, House Committee on Government Reform, with "more detailed
information about DOD support to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Firearms and the FBI." This documentation noted that ammunition costing
$5,066 was provided to the FBI. While the Assistant Secretary listed only
the practice and illumination rounds as being provided by the Army, the
$5,066 cost provided in the documentation agreed with the total amount in
the Memorandum of Agreement for all three types of ammunition to include the
high explosive rounds.

On the second point, DOD said that the Department had no record that any
high explosive ammunition was fired at any of the ranges at Fort Hood during
the period the FBI was present. What physically happened to the military
items provided to the FBI was not the focus of our earlier report. However,
we were told that the term "consumed," noted next to the ammunition items in
documentation provided to us during our review, was used to indicate that
the materials that the Army provided to the FBI were no longer in its
inventory. The notation did not necessarily mean that the ammunition was
fired at the Fort Hood ranges. Also, a notation on another document shows
that the FBI was granted permission to take away any unused ammunition from
the firing range. In commenting on our draft report, DOD officials said that
it is unlikely that the FBI would have fired the high explosive rounds at
the Fort Hood range since doing so would have damaged the range.

In closing, we see no need to change any of the information in our report on
the military assistance provided during the Branch Davidian incident. As
noted in our 1999 report, DOD officials indicated that they accepted our
findings on the matters as presented. Moreover, the Department of Justice
and the FBI indicated that they agreed with the substance of our report.

DOD officials reviewed a draft of this report and concurred with its
contents. We have incorporated their comments where appropriate. We
conducted our work in August 2000 in accordance with generally accepted
government auditing standards.

As arranged with your office, unless you publicly release its contents
earlier, we plan no further distribution of this report until 30 days after
the date of this letter. At that time, we will send a copy of this report to
the Honorable Henry Waxman, Ranking Member, House Committee on Government
Reform. If you have any questions, please call me on 202-512-5140. Key
contributors to this report were Bill Solis, Leo Jessup, and Melissa
McDowell.

Sincerely yours,

[Signature]

Carol R. Schuster
Associate Director, National Security
Preparedness Issues
=============================================================++++++++++++=======
APFN WHY WACO PAGES:
Inside Mount Carmel 03/08/93
..... and the truth will set you free!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm

The Beast of the Apocalypse: 666
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/beast_666.htm

Joe Burton

"Report: Clinton, Reno deceived public about Waco tragedy"
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/waco_report.htm

WHY_WACO I (under construction)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/why_waco.htm

Inside Mount Carmel
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/inside.htm

Why WACO! "LET JUSTICE FINALLY BE DONE"
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/waco_justice.htm

APFN WACO Page
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm

Why Waco?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/whywaco.htm

More on Waco
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moreon.htm

Hillary Directed Waco
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/hillary_waco.htm

WACO: Gunshot Evidence
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/gunshot.htm

Sarah Bain's Letter to District Court Judge Walter S. Smith, Jr.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/sarah.htm

WACO SIEGE
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacosiege.htm

General Wesley Clark
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clark.htm

The US military was at Waco
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clark.htm

Former Waco Prosecutor Indicted
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/former.htm

WACO: UNNERSTALL FAX
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/unnerstall_fax.htm

Excerpts from Mt. Carmel, the Unseen Reality
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/mtcarmel.htm

WACO AND NANCY SINATRA + OTHER RABBIT TRAILS
http://www/apfn.org/apfn/nancy.htm

Mount Carmel A Day of Information
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacoinfo4-19-94.htm

WACO ~ One of the Biggest "Federal Lies" of All Time
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacolies.htm

Waco Trial Update 06/25/00
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacoupdate.htm

WACO TRIAL 07/14/2000
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/kangaroo.htm

WACO: INTERVIEW EXCERPTS: Dr. Nizam Peerwani
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Peerwani.htm

Who Waco?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/whowaco.htm

Who Waco! Probe Clinton's Ties To Riady to Rapoport to Why Waco!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ties.htm

FBI didn't plan to fight Waco fire
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacofire.htm

The Aftermath of Koresh's Waco
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ID_main.htm

WACO: Files from APFN
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/rapoport.htm

WACO: GAO REPORT - DOD/FBI Ammo
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/waco_GAO.htm

Now the real Waco tragedy begins
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/realwaco.htm

Bring The Waco Murders To Justice! CLASS ACTION SUIT
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/CAS.htm

HOW CAN YOU BE 100% CERTAIN?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/how.htm

WACO: HEY DANFORTH
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/danforth.htm

CRONY RIADY INVITES CLINTON TO JOIN LIPPO BOARD
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/riady.htm

Who Waco! Probe Clinton's Ties To Riady to Rapoport to Why Waco!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ties.htm

APFN Talks to the Enemy
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/enemy.htm

FBI Special Agent (SA) R. Wayne Smith Waco Report
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/fbiwaco_doc.htm


There is NO Statutes of Limitations on the Crimes of Genocide!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm

APPOINTMENT WITH THE APOCALYPSE
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/appointment.asp

Subscribe to apfn-1
Powered by groups.yahoo.com

Without Justice there is Just_Us!
statue_liberty.jpg (9342 bytes)

American Patriot Friends Network [APFN]
"...a network of net workers..."


http://www.apfn.org

APFN Message Board

APFN Sitemap

APFN Contents Page

APFN Home Page

E-Mail: apfn@apfn.org

Hit Counter

Last updated 08/05/2010