fund-raising abuses by Democrats questioned
President Clinton extensively about his ties to
Indonesian businessman James Riady, dating back to
his 1992 White House campaign.
In testimony released Monday, Clinton said he did
not remember a 1992 limousine ride in which Riady
purportedly pledged to funnel $1 million in
donations to his campaign.
have a specific recollection of what the
conversation was, or this fact of the car
ride,'' the president said. He said he only
remembered seeing Riady ``sometime in '92 after I
became the nominee,'' and that Riady pledged to help
When pressed as to whether he could specifically
recall Riady's $1 million promise, Clinton replied:
``I don't. I don't. And I don't know whether he ever
gave that much money. ... If he said a million, I'm
surprised I don't remember it.''
A 155-page transcript of Clinton's four-hour
testimony, taken April 21, was released late
Monday by the White House without comment.
A Justice Department task force is looking into
whether Riady, as a foreign national, worked
illegally to funnel campaign contributions to
Clinton's presidential campaign.
According to an FBI summary released last year,
Democratic fund-raiser John Huang, a Riady employee,
said Riady ``rode in a limousine with ... Clinton,''
telling the then-Arkansas governor ``that he would
like to raise $1 million.''
told Huang that President Clinton's reaction was one
of surprise when J. Riady said he would like
to raise $1 million,'' the summary added.
Huang said that in the following weeks, Riady
employees donated hundreds of thousands of dollars
to the Democratic Party. He said he assumed the
donors had been reimbursed by Riady, as he had been.
In the testimony, Clinton flatly denied taking Riady
into the White House Situation Room in 1993, on the
day that federal agents raided the Branch Davidians
compound near Waco, Texas. According to
investigators, Riady used such anecdotes to give
government ministers in Indonesia the impression
that his family ``had a direct pipeline to the Oval
``I don't think I've ever taken anybody to the
Situation Room,'' The president said. ``I think
that's highly unlikely.''
But Clinton also said he did not remember anything
that happened that day.
``I did my best to go
through the day to do my job, do what I was supposed
to do,'' he said.
Clinton and Vice President Al Gore (news - web
sites) were questioned by investigators as part of
the government's ongoing investigation into alleged
fund-raising abuses by Democrats.
In his testimony, released last month, Gore wrestled
with the definition of ``fund-raiser,'' insisted
there was no price tag placed on White House coffees
and denied knowing that the event he attended at a
Buddhist temple in California was actually a
fund-raiser. The questioning focused on the 1996
Clinton, however, was interrogated about his 1992
and 1996 campaigns, his first encounters with Riady
and Riady's father, Mochtar, and his process of
deciding whom to tap for administration jobs and
When investigators asked about the size of Riady's
pledged donation - and the fact that Clinton seems
to have forgotten such a large contribution - the
president said such activities are commonplace.
``Sometimes people give that much money. I know in
an election or two ago that one of the Republicans
got that much money from one source,'' Clinton said.
``So, it happens from time to time and it's not
unlawful. But I, I just don't
Clinton's testimony contained scant references to
Gore, the presumptive Democratic presidential
nominee this year, and dealt mainly with whether he
agreed that the coffees were his idea, not Gore's.
``If he said that, Iwouldn't disagree with that,''
the president said.
He defended the coffees as innocent activity, saying
he saw nothing wrong with them because he also was
holding issues-oriented coffees at that time.
``And I still do some of them, but mostly in the
late afternoon, unrelated to
National Committee),'' Clinton said. ``I liked them
and they were easy on me.''
The task force also questioned the president about a
vacation he and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton
took at Camp David, Md., during the July 4th holiday
in 1993, approximately a week after aide Webster
Hubbell purportedly accepted $100,000 from a Riady
entity. Clinton denied that Hubbell mentioned
anything about working for Riady.
``The only thing I remember about that vacation was
that I took a long walk with him (Hubbell) and I
asked him if he was in trouble,'' Clinton said.
``And he said no, he was having a billing dispute
with a law firm and he would resolve it. That's the
searing memory I have about that.''
Clinton hotly denied telling Riady of concerns about
payments to Hubbell because Hubbell might end up as
a witness in an investigation. Such a conversation
``would have made Mr. (independent counsel Kenneth)
Starr happy,'' he said.
``Webb Hubbell was persistently persecuted by the
independent counsel because he would not lie about
me or Hillary,'' Clinton said. ``I never worried
about what Webb Hubbell would say. If he wanted to
say something bad about me, he'd have to make it
Justice Department investigation should target
Justice Department investigation should target
According to The New York Times,
former UT System Regents Chairman Bernard Rappoport
hired Webster Hubbell for a joint venture with the
Riady family in Indonesia during the brief time
before Hubbell's federal imprisonment. This shocker
should end naive beliefs that the cozy and
profitable relationships between the individuals who
ran this system and
Indonesian interests was
Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr is
investigating these and other enormous payments,
totaling $400,000, to determine if they were "hush
money" related in any way to Hubbell's decision to
not cooperate with federal investigators.
Appearances of impropriety include frequent visits
to Hubbell in prison by the Clintons' close personal
friends, to remind him the Clintons still "cared."
The Lippo Group, an Indonesian conglomerate run by
the Riadys, helped introduce since-disgraced
fund-raiser John Huang to the Clinton
administration, which later endorsed Rappoport's $2
billion Chinese real-estate project. Rappoport's
public service to Texas served his private interests
well. Clinton has claimed ignorance of these
"indefensible" payments from his good friends and
his best friend.
We can no longer deny the coinciding of
interest in hiring Hubbell as
his lawyer, and the large consulting compensation
paid to UT System Chancellor William Cunningham by
Jim Bob Moffett and Freeport-McMoRan -- a large and
controversial corporate presence in Indonesia.
We now expect the Justice Department's
investigation to shift south, to the Democratic
Leadership Council. This group was co-founded by
Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana, who helped Moffett
intimidate our faculty last year. This cozy
relationship suggests our system administration
This sad possibility is
supported by other events. Last year, we lost a
"whistle-blower" lawsuit in which a plaintiff
alleged the University deliberately undercollected
royalties from oil and gas producers with ties to
Now there are allegations of
administrators being forced to
contribute to the
Students, faculty and staff are completely
unaware of the alleged sleazy machinations. Perhaps
our traditional reliance on the Democratic Party's
support of higher education has left us vulnerable
to its recent indiscretions.
President Robert Berdahl had some of these
consideration in mind when he accepted the
chancellorship at Cal-Berkeley. Berdahl is a man of
principle, he may have felt totally out of place
within the highest levels of the UT System.
Vernon is a graduate student in economics.
Non-professional 90-minute audio tape tells
story of Republic of Texas, added to this tape are
cuts of information of Bill Clinton's connection to
the Illuminati. This information has never been
released because of the most certain death that will
occur to those who are in the know. This is a judge
for yourself, real interviews with various inside
contacts that have told various parts of who pulled
the trigger on the Branch Davidian's and the
connections. Shocking, to say the least. In Bill
Clinton's own words he thanks his friend of 25
Bernard Rappoport of Waco, Texas. The
reported illuminati controller of Texas, if not the
entire United States as revealed on tape.
As best as I can find it was Bernard Rappoport
who sells all
the life insurance to Teamsters
Union members and is of
course connected to the
Chicago Mafia, Dan
Rostenkowski, Hillary Clinton,
Hubbell, Dan Lasater,
Mochtar Riady, John Huang,
the Chinese Communist and
Opium-China-CIA connection going back I guess
the Boxer rebellion.
You guys are only just scratching the surface
with Rappoport. Get to his buddy Doc Peelwani,
the guy who did the Autopsies at Waco, as is the
same guy who certified Jim McDougal's death in
a Texas prison.
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THIS IS AN OPERATION HEADED BY WILLIAM
SESSIONS (WACO, TEXAS) FBI DIRECTOR, 28 FEB. 1993 --- IT IS
SAID THAT GUNTHER RUSSBACKER WAS LEAD AGENT, THAT IS
OPERATION WAS FINANCED BY CHARLES KEATING, IN THEY THIS
GROUP WOULD ASSASSIN CHILD MOLESTERS AND HIGH LEVEL
POLITICAL LEADERS THAT WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE 'WORLD
IT IS SAID THIS THE REASON WILLIAM
SESSION WOULD NOT REACT TO JANET RENO AND CLINTON DURING THE
WACO STANDOFF AND LATER LEFT OFFICE ON TRUMPETED UP CHARGES.
FAX RECEIVED APFN JULY 9 1993 --- (THREE PAGES RECEIVED}
JUL - 9-93 FRI 10:20 UNNERSTALL CONT.
Discussions with William Sessions
Do Not Publish
Quid Pro Quo
1. Safety for entire D.F.G. team if
they come forward Re: Waco. 2. XXXXXXXXXXXX station
in St. Louis, was primary fae????? facilitator of group.
3. XXXXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXX are missing since 7/3/93 last
sighting Wash. D.C.
4. Purpose of Waco raid was to
target and remove seven sleepers (MK-Ultra) who refused to
adhere to ASA and DIA standards. Sleeper were programed by
Dr. Chomg Sun Kim of Stone
Waco compound members had almost completed assembly of a
nerve gas toxin device
massive/large enought o quantify
to target and destroy all organic life in 432 square mile
city the size of Oklahoma City was intended.
Moreover, Houston, Tx. was designated as principal target.
Denver had been considered along with Salt Lake City, but
the mountainous area precludes accurate dispersion
measurements and cannot be calculated as to speed of cross
dissipation. Method of dispersal was propeller craft with
running air speed of no more then 60 miles per hour. Max.
cross seeding to be done at 2500 feet for East-West axis,
with 2000 feet for North-South axis.
6. The device in
Waco ws in very few hours of completion. Order to go in was
not made by
Executive Branch!!! Orders assumed "Code
Actual" when the infiltrator XXX agent residing within the
complex stated "Code Blue". At that time our man Dan McGuire
was pulled out; ATF had men in place (inside) up until two
days before siege began.
7. Reno spoke Adm. XXxxxXXXX
and XXXXXXXXXX about a D.G.T. insertion. Reno acted
she knew nothing about the real problem-the device!
1. Material for the device was
appropriated through A/F 1324-B The nitrate component was
acquired from Ft. Devens, MA.; the volatility stabilizers
were brought, via truck, from Ft. Mead,
MD. All raw and
processed materials was provided from military stores. The
detonators were acquired from Carswell USAF,
Ft. Worth, TX.
2. Transport personnel was found from AAA services: a
subsidiary of Snelling of St. Paul, MN.
There were 2 ATF
officers from Galveston in the compound as the shipments
3. Technical assistance in handling and
construction were flown in to Dallas from Dover, Deleware.
The techs were ASA and USA Chem Corps personnel.
B. Charles Whitehead
C. Stanley Brownfeld
D. Ngo Den Phung (ARVN old timer)
E. Pearl Lance
CHEMICAL RAW WEIGHT-PRIOR TO (CHEMEORSPECTRA)
1. Molten metal fused to Kitchen appliances-65KG, of
sulfur/Zinc volatile mass. It did not ignite
stage!?? The cerebro neuro toxins of the C-2 nerve gas
propellant ignited under a stress measure of .25pnd/PSI,
causing nneuro-toxins to incinerate at 0 level. Immediate
reports were unavailable for 11 hours (according to media
because it was too hot to enter) due to unresolved
neuro-toxic density at 0 level (entire first In squad wore
toxic suits and double masks). Total recovered mass at
incineration site-125pounds +/- . Numerous base mineral
clusters were found fused to small ordnance. That means; the
device was in 5 parts, kept in separate munitions bunkers
(level 2&3). The minneral/gaseous mass found at ground 0
were massed to various kitchen appliances and indicate that
the compound of the mass was jellied! (color believed to
have ranged from green to dark olive green-prior to
incineration). Incineration occurred through the
introduction of 80/90 MM 20 pound glycerine canisters which
held a flash point of 175 F to accelerate the focused flash
point. A C-2/4 tear gas (canister from) was inserted via
90MM Bradley barrels into the ripped Structure to facilitate
ignition. A combination of Oxygen and dimethyl alcohol was
injected into the structure at intervals. Ignition occurred
electronically; ignition for secondaries was delivered via
mercury acid fuses located at canister base.
9-93 10:29 UNNERSTALL CONST. P.03
themselves from acute perimeter by donning ATF blue jackets
and baseball caps.
DGF blended with in going ATF as they
meandered back to their command vehicle. The amount
lives saved at ground 0=7.
Inserted team terminated
12 by projectile to the base of skull or forehead. 10
Paul Wilcher's FULL REPORT w/ letter
Letter to Attorney General Janet Reno dated
May 21, 1993
About what really happened at Waco
Re: (1) Vital NEW information concerning
the conflagration at David
Koresh's Branch Davidian
compound, "Ranch Apocalypse," outside Waco
Monday, April 19th, 1993, which is now being kept from you
covered up -- i.e., that what happened was NOT a "mass
rather a MASS MURDER;
(3) The extreme sensitivity of this information, and my
proposal as to how you should handle it. The
lives of key participants,
other witnesses, and even
myself are now in grave danger as a result of
this information on to you. If you let this information fall
into the hands of the wrong persons, some or all of those
who know the
truth about Waco and are now prepared to
come forward and testify could
well be "silenced" (i.e.,
MURDERED) in the very near future;
Page - 45
(c) And then above the DCI and the Joint
Chiefs, at the very Pinnacle of
power, sits a top secret
council of nine (9) men -- whose names I do
not know, and
would not recognize even if I stumbled across them --
who nevertheless have the power, and who regularly exercise
power -- to order the "termination with extreme
prejudice" of any
person on earth, up to and including
the President of the United States.
Page 101 of Paul Wilcher Report to Janet Reno:
PLAN ON HOW TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH OF WACO & END THE CIA'S
"ABOVE THE LAW" STATUS -- IMMUNITY FOR 16 OR SO "BLACK"
OPERATIVES IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR COMPLETE TESTIMONY ON WACO
AND ALL OTHER MATTERS PLUS PROTECTION FOR THEMSELVES AND
Paul Wilcher's exPOSE (2 pages)
ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO -
Friday, May 21st, 1993
Wilcher's FULL REPORT w/ letter (103 pages)
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(APFN, A copy of this report was sent to the Waco
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[APFN] NOTE TYPED BELOW MESSAGE ---
As of July 9, 1993, the three above named members of DGF
(hand written in -- names blacked
out) are still missing.
It should be noted that inn almost thirty years of service,
those men have never before failed to check in with their
//end of message//
the time I received this I did not have 100% proof of Wm.
Sessions connection/link to
Gunther Russbacher. I now
have this proof, in Wm. Sessions own handwriting.
Crimes and Crimes Against.....
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THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
The slide into dictatorship
Wed Feb 13 18:21:50 2002
Note: My listing a web page below does not
of all its contents.
see Waco Articles page
Waco: the Rules of Engagement
(film/video) The movie web page page has reviews, order
forms for video, various interesting materials.
Waco: A New Revelation (film/video) More
evidence of federal agents' murderous intent and
Dave Hardy's Waco Page An attorney helping
with the Davidian civil suits, Hardy includes great
photos, videos and audios which he got through Freedom
of Information requests.
Ian Goddard's Waco Pages currently Waco FLIR
Center for Reform Includes a Waco investigation
section with good official documentation.
Outpost of Freedom Waco Pages Gary Hunt, who was
active during the siege, presents various original
documents and writings:
The Sun Reflection Geometry Report
which debunks the governments claim infrared photography
on April 19, 1993 merely shows sun reflections, not
No More Wacos:
What's Wrong with Federal Law Enforcement, and How to
Fix It Authors David B. Kopel and Paul H. Blackman's web
page. Book is fact filled, but would have had a more
balanced and accurate view if they had interviewed
Davidian survivors and attorneys.
PBS Front Line "Waco: The Inside Story"
While obviously suspect as a government source, the page
does include some good video and audio tape and
Visions page Breault is the former member who set out to
destroy the Davidians as a religous group and succeeded.
Rick Ross's Waco pages This
cultbuster and forced deprogrammer also set out to
destroy the Davidians and succeeded.
The Davidian Massacre home page
1993 - The ATF Search Warrant
1993 - Davidian autopsy reports Warning:This
is part of the much larger WacoMuseum website which
makes libelous claims that Davidian survivors are
government agents and/or helped kill dozens of Davidians
2-28-93 and coverup the murders. Ignore the text and use
only the photos and the public documents reproduced
1993 - Alan A. Stone, M.D. Report to
Department of Justice on Expert Advice at Waco
1993 - Nancy Ammerman Report to Department
of Justice on Expert Advice at Waco
1994 - Davidian Criminal Trial
Transcripts (incomplete) Table of Contents:
1995 - House Waco Report: Investigation into the
Activities of Federal Law Enforcement Agencies toward
the Branch Davidians In the end, Congress blamed the
1999 -Texas Rangers September 1999 Waco report:
MOUNT CARMEL VICTIMS AND
Mount Carmel Survivors Fund Web Page Davidian
trial transcripts, good links, chat.
A Place Called Waco Survivor David Thibodeau's page,
named after his book of same name.
Reason Magazine interview with David
Seven Seals Revelation Davidian
prisoner Renos Avraam's book of "new light."
Inside Mount Carmel Transcript of video
taken of a number of Davidians during the siege. Video
available from Mount Carmel survivors.
The History of the
Branch Davidian/David Koresh religious views
Take a Moment to Picture
this includes many photos of and memorials to Davidian
The Waco Memorial Project includes
memorials to four Davidian victims.
Edwards, Paul spar over Branch
WACO: THE NEW WORLD ORDER EXPERIMENT!!
WACO DAY 3: Satellite City
RE: Who's APFN??: REMEMBER WACO! DAY ONE, FEB
18 Waco Pro-Lifers Acquitted
WACO AND NANCY SINATRA + OTHER RABBIT TRAILS:
Waco Tragedy News: Davidian Newsletter for March
Branch Davidian raid heard on 911 tape
FBI Special Agent (SA) R. Wayne Smith Waco
$200 tax was what Waco was all about.
An Unofficial Account of the Waco
WACO DAY 2: Checkpoint at FM 2491 and Loop 340
NEW: WHY WACO POWER POINT
Waco Raid Footage: Where is it?
Reminiscent of WACO
APPOINTMENT WITH THE APOCALYPSE
I have the tapes ...
Branch Davidian Seventh Day Adventists March 2005
February 28: Just another sad date in American
"POSSE COMITATUS ACT" (18 USC
Why Waco?: Cults and the Battle for Religious
Freedom in America is page for the book by James Tabor &
Eugene V. Gallagher.
MISCELLANEOUS PHOTO AND LINKS PAGES
The Hillary Waco Project Amusing and fairly
on-targetWaco comics, though it blames women rather than the
Good Old Boys for the murders.
The Waco Coverup Cartoons by all of the top
editorial cartoonists updated regularly.
Alex Jones Info Wars page Radio show host who's been
big Davidian supporter.
Waco Photo Gallery
Waco: Massacre at Mt Carmel Good links collection.
Waco: Massacre at Mt Carmel
Good links collection.
The Waco Tragedy: Information Page
The Waco Massacre various links and
Waco Links and great poster of Janet Rambo Reno
Branch Davidians lots of links.
Visit to Mount Carmel 1995 Photos:
Tien-Kuo Waco pages
LaRosa Reports by Benedict D. LaRosa
includes several good ones on Waco.
Rep. Ron Paul's controversial statement
Skelton's Pledge of Allegiance
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